I need to have apps on mobile phone to get discounts in store now.

Aussiemike · Jul 10, 2024

I have never really felt discriminated from memory until the last week.
I ordered a pizza from dominos and the deal was $40au for 3 pizzas and 3 sides pick up. I went down there and ordered and the dude said no that is only on the app.
ok i was annoyed and just went with the flow.

A few days later I had a paper voucher from dominos that said 3 pizzas and 3 sides for $40au delivered , ok so I ordered the 3 pizzas and ordered various "sides" from there "sides" menu. The dude on the phone said no sides are only a soft drink or standard garlic bread. agggh ok so 2 garlic breads and a pepsi max it is, when it was delivered the dude said "that will be $40.75c I exclaimed with respect f*&K off its $40 he replied "ok damn the computer how it acts".

Today I went to the local BWS / grog shop to buy a bottle of bunderberg rum as it was on special and when I went to checkout the dude said do you have the app?
I said no, he said after I gave him the evil eye "its ok ill us my phone" and said that to get ticketed specials i need to have the app on my phone for him to scan to get the discount wt f&^king F%^K!!!!

Has any other people had this problem?
Ps I only order pizzas probably every 4 or 5 months but it was my birthday ok

Idlefellow · Jul 10, 2024

I'm with you. I'm so tired of this crap. Gotta have an app, or it's "on-line only" stuff, or they want a phone number or email for the "rewards program". My printer shot craps the other day and I bought a new one; no manual with it, I had to go to their website for instructions on setting it up! Local TV news only gives a teaser on most stories and then it's "go to our website or facebook for more on this story". I got a prescription yesterday: it was $46 with my insurance at Walgreens, but at Walmart with GoodRx it was $13.16. Really? I guess the whole point is to make it as difficult as possible for us old folks so we either can't do it or we get tired of the hassle and give up; that way they can bilk us out of the most money possible

Zeno Marx · Jul 10, 2024

anyway to get your data...so they can sell your data. and so they can stop paying a worker somewhere in the line.

Singed · Jul 10, 2024

I am extremely selective about who I give my phone number, much less my e-mail, etc. If I miss out on openly advertised deals because I don't have an ap I just walk off without paying. It's not like they have any of my personal information to track me. Never used points cards either. If I'm asked for personal information at a check-out, I just refuse. COVID made many people targets for this kind of privacy invasion and with the removal of restrictions regarding COVID I went back to restricting my personal information ... a topic better suited to the rubber room, so I'll stop there.

Timbo · Jul 11, 2024

They're all doing it these days. A massive data grab for nefarious purposes IMHO.

Macca's has been doing it too for over a year now and one even wouldn't take cash when my son tried buying a burger there.

Instant loss of business for me if any business tries to pull that crap.

Aussiemike · Jul 11, 2024

Singed said:
I am extremely selective about who I give my phone number, much less my e-mail, etc. If I miss out on openly advertised deals because I don't have an ap I just walk off without paying. It's not like they have any of my personal information to track me. Never used points cards either. If I'm asked for personal information at a check-out, I just refuse. COVID made many people targets for this kind of privacy invasion and with the removal of restrictions regarding COVID I went back to restricting my personal information ... a topic better suited to the rubber room, so I'll stop there.

yeah I never have had loyalty/discount cards either just asking for even more spam and scams hey.

Aussiemike · Jul 11, 2024

Timbo said:
They're all doing it these days. A massive data grab for nefarious purposes IMHO.

Macca's has been doing it too for over a year now and one even wouldn't take cash when my son tried buying a burger there.

Instant loss of business for me if any business tries to pull that crap.

100% data grab, no cash bloody crazy hey.

RDPipes · Jul 14, 2024

Never have to worry about all that garbage, I don't own a cellphone and won't.
I think there a worthless play toy for most and I'm not interested in getting lost because of poor GPS or playing candy crush. LOL!

Gaius Marius · Jul 15, 2024

Here in the west coast, parking meters are disappearing. Now, one must download an app on one's phone and pay for parking that way. Worst of all is that every city, and sometimes different parts of one city all have their own apps.
I won't capitulate to this trend. Downloading a third party app to pay to park is something I just won't do.
Those above talking about a data grab are correct. In general, on YouTube or any other free platform or service, you are the product being sold by way of your information to advertisers or other obscure groups.

fireman11 · Jul 15, 2024

I quit going to those places or just pay the $$ if I have to go to one. We usually plan to only shop at places that don't require data mining. The exception is McD's. We go there if the grandkids want to but still don't give up our data.

sobx · Sep 5, 2024

Apps are great for geolocation. Helps the business market you better. They don't waste resources on spamming people that are not in their geographical area. Back in the 90's I remember all the conspiracy theorists were afraid they gubmint was going to embed a chip in all of us. They never dreamed the gubmint doesn't have to kidnap us and embed a chip...we carry the "chip" around every day all day. That's why the "obama phones" were rolled out. The poor folks were too poor to buy a cell phone they said, so the gubmint gave them a tracking chip for free.

Every time you open that app your phone calls home with your location.

Currently the FCC is soliciting public comment as they are considering reallocating a portion of the 900MHz band for GPS use by NextNav Corporation. NextNav wants to create a 5-MHz uplink in the 902-907 MHz band paired with a 10-MHz downlink in the 918-928 MHz band.

Presently, civilian GPS is 2-dimensional, they know where you are pretty closely but not your elevation. If the re-allocation goes thru at the FCC, major carriers who subscribe to NextNav (basically all of them) will be able to locate you in 3-D. If you are at work they will be able to determine which floor of the building you work on. If you live in an apartment, they will not only know your address, but what floor of the building you live on if you have a cell phone. With a 6-foot accuracy, the guys who love to send you "newsletters" and "offers" and "things we think you may be interested in" will know when you're in the kitchen, when you're in the living room, or when you're in your bedroom of your house.

(Of course, this is all for our own good because the government knows what's best for us)

sobx · Sep 5, 2024

Gaius Marius said:
Here in the west coast, parking meters are disappearing. Now, one must download an app on one's phone and pay for parking that way. Worst of all is that every city, and sometimes different parts of one city all have their own apps.
I won't capitulate to this trend. Downloading a third party app to pay to park is something I just won't do.
Those above talking about a data grab are correct. In general, on YouTube or any other free platform or service, you are the product being sold by way of your information to advertisers or other obscure groups.

Same way here. QR codes posted all over the parking lot. They still have the stations where you can use a debit/credit card. But they'll phase that out as well. That app sends your IMEI (the carriers call it your "unique identifier" for marketing purposes) to the app company. Then they know more about you then that your mama does.

But I have a loophole...Disabled Veteran tags. I park for free. I don't have to download the app or provide a debit card to a for-profit marketing corporation to be able to park.

sobx · Sep 5, 2024

RDPipes said:
Never have to worry about all that garbage, I don't own a cellphone and won't.
I think there a worthless play toy for most and I'm not interested in getting lost because of poor GPS or playing candy crush. LOL!

You will own one eventually unless you're going to live in a cave in the mountains and eat earthworms to survive. But even then you'll need a cell phone to do the bank transfer to pay the taxes on that land every year through the tax departments app.

The gov't wants to link your identity, your browser history, your location, and your speech, your medical info (insurance companies love that one), your bad cigar smoking habits, etc to an IMEI. The IMEI is the new national identifier. You can't activate even a prepaid cell phone anymore without providing a SSN and other personal data in the U.S. so you can be "verified" under the Patriot Act. Several years ago I worked for a major corporation in the U.S. During a meeting I brought up the privacy issues in the app and made the comment that users might consider that a privacy issue and complain to the FCC or Atty General or other Gov't agency. The answer I got was, "Let them. IT'S THE GOV'T thats making us have the back door!"

Decades ago, backdoors used to be a bad thing. Straight out of college I got a job for a major cell carrier. I eventually moved up and in the co. and wrote part of their code for their Android front end. I had installed a backdoor so during testing, if it hung in a loop or some other coding problem, I could kill it and go find my bug. Only I forgot to take my backdoor out when the project was finished and it went to final compiling. One day the boss told me he needed to see me in his office. When I walked in there were two guys in dark suits who wanted to know why I built a backdoor into the cell companies OS. The company has submitted the OS to the FBI so they could review it to make sure they had access. They found my backdoor and thought I was trying to hijack the telecom system. LOL I had some 'splaining to do and they understood and left. I'm probably still on some gov't list die to that.

The V.A. is going to that 2FA log-in in January. I'll stop taking my meds as I won't be able to log in to order refills after January. I refuse to download an app or send my "SSN, gov't issued photo ID, DOB, etc" to a for-profit marketing corporation in order to be able to "verify my identity" and log on to the V.A's pharmacy website.

I didn't fight and bleed for Ameria to be marketed by a corporation in exchange for health care. Me and the V.A. don't need no for-profit marketing corporation sticking their noses in our business. My military service and health is a contract between me and the DoD, not a marketing threesome.

Bill (w/eoPd) · Sep 6, 2024

I have not been able to make digital or online purchases~payments since the end of my engagement (May) because our bank accounts, credit cards, PayPal, et cetera were all jointly held and removing myself as an account holder allowed my fiancée to focus on her dissertation.

Gaius Marius · Sep 6, 2024

sobx said:
You will own one eventually unless you're going to live in a cave in the mountains and eat earthworms to survive. But even then you'll need a cell phone to do the bank transfer to pay the taxes on that land every year through the tax departments app.

The gov't wants to link your identity, your browser history, your location, and your speech, your medical info (insurance companies love that one), your bad cigar smoking habits, etc to an IMEI. The IMEI is the new national identifier. You can't activate even a prepaid cell phone anymore without providing a SSN and other personal data in the U.S. so you can be "verified" under the Patriot Act. Several years ago I worked for a major corporation in the U.S. During a meeting I brought up the privacy issues in the app and made the comment that users might consider that a privacy issue and complain to the FCC or Atty General or other Gov't agency. The answer I got was, "Let them. IT'S THE GOV'T thats making us have the back door!"

Decades ago, backdoors used to be a bad thing. Straight out of college I got a job for a major cell carrier. I eventually moved up and in the co. and wrote part of their code for their Android front end. I had installed a backdoor so during testing, if it hung in a loop or some other coding problem, I could kill it and go find my bug. Only I forgot to take my backdoor out when the project was finished and it went to final compiling. One day the boss told me he needed to see me in his office. When I walked in there were two guys in dark suits who wanted to know why I built a backdoor into the cell companies OS. The company has submitted the OS to the FBI so they could review it to make sure they had access. They found my backdoor and thought I was trying to hijack the telecom system. LOL I had some 'splaining to do and they understood and left. I'm probably still on some gov't list die to that.

The V.A. is going to that 2FA log-in in January. I'll stop taking my meds as I won't be able to log in to order refills after January. I refuse to download an app or send my "SSN, gov't issued photo ID, DOB, etc" to a for-profit marketing corporation in order to be able to "verify my identity" and log on to the V.A's pharmacy website.

I didn't fight and bleed for Ameria to be marketed by a corporation in exchange for health care. Me and the V.A. don't need no for-profit marketing corporation sticking their noses in our business. My military service and health is a contract between me and the DoD, not a marketing threesome.

The semiconductor was a mistake.

RDPipes · Sep 15, 2024

sobx said:
You will own one eventually unless you're going to live in a cave in the mountains and eat earthworms to survive.

Heck, I'm doing that now LOL! I'm not going to worry about it, they can not force me to have a cellphone.
Besides by the time that sorta bull comes around I'll be dead and gone.
I'm sorry if you irritated that I don't have a cellphone like everybody else but, it's just not going
to happen no matter how much you want it to sir. Now if the government wants to give me one free
I'll take it but, it'll never leave the house. I rarely leave the house anyway except to go to church
and grocery shopping anyway. Thank you for your concern.

Singed · Sep 15, 2024

It's the zombie apocalypse boys and girls! Sharpen your blades and ration your ammo. You can tell it's a zombie if it walks around with its brain in its hands.

fireman11 · Sep 15, 2024

Singed said:
It's the zombie apocalypse boys and girls! Sharpen your blades and ration your ammo. You can tell it's a zombie if it walks around with its brain in its hands.

And this has to do with what?

Zeno Marx · Sep 15, 2024

fireman11 said:
And this has to do with what?

I think what they're saying is that in a The Walking Dead context 2024, the first thing you do is destroy the cell towers and make the undead into a different set of confused zombies looking for a purpose.

fireman11 · Sep 15, 2024

Zeno Marx said:
I think what they're saying is that in a The Walking Dead context 2024, the first thing you do is destroy the cell towers and make the undead into a different set of confused zombies looking for a purpose.

Ahh....got it.

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