$38 DUNHILL?

[RDPipes]

I have personally never seen a Dunhill sell for less then $100 unless it was in pretty dadburn bad condition. This one sold awhile back for $38 and has been puzzling me since. No, it wasn't mine but, I know the seller. here's the info on the pipe as stated in the auction. Dunhill 35 F/T Root Briar. There is a 3 with an R in a circle. On the other side it says, Made in England with a 7 in line with the "d" in England.
Any ideas why it went so low?

 

[Richard Burley]

Because it needs a meerschaum lining?

 

[Ocelot55]

Just some thoughts:

1) Nomenclature is weak
2) bowl has been excessively reamed
3) stem looks good...too good. Could be a replacement

 

[Mr. Doody]

those are some thin walls, f'shizzle.

doody.

 

[RDPipes]

Okay, I'll try to respond to all here.

Meer lining, that is a good question, it looks like it may have had one.
But, I've seen Dunhill's with pretty thin walls before, maybe not that thin though.

Numerical weak, yeah but, not that bad I don't think. Stem replaced, no, cause I'm the one that restored it.
The bowl again, over reamed? What kind of reamer did the guy have? Drill press mounted? LOL!

Bowl again, thin walls. Yeah, they are pretty thin.

Your probably all right, the bowl. Since Richard pointed it out, I wonder if it could have possibly had a meer lining?
To ream it out that much I just can't imagine but, I reckon anything is possible when people are involved. LOL!
Thank you guys for your replies. I've learned a little bit more today, one is to stay the hell away from Dunhill's cause I'm clueless about them.
Never like the looks of most of them anyway. (sour grapes anyone?)

 

[daveinlax]

. Any ideas why it went so low?

LOL! Look at it! It's been reamed/re drilled within a 1/8 inch of it's life. IMO it's worthless as a smoker and $10 tops for the stem. :shock: 

 

[Richard Burley]

I'm not so sure that is a Dunhill. There were fakes floating around at one time, perhaps there still are. I only have three to compare, but none of mine has the Dunhill stamp mis-aligned like this one. Don't like the looks of it. The over-reaming is peculiar, as mentioned. What with, and why? Anyone know if Dunhill actually made a meerschaum-lined pipe? The idea seems ludicrous, but I suppose possible. It's a 1967, right? A bit too early to have attained its cult status, so maybe.

 

[Mr. Doody]

I've learned a little bit more today, one is to stay the hell away from Dunhill's cause I'm clueless about them.

don't stay away from them forever - they make some damn damn fine pipes.

i own one - my birth year pipe - and it smokes fantastically. i bought it off fleabay, paid a pretty penny for it, and bought it from a VERY reputable seller and restorer. i watched dozens of pipes go by on fleabay for nearly a year before i pulled the trigger. once i was certain it was a quality pipe and i trusted the people behind it, i went for it and have NEVER regretted it. definitely the most expensive pipe i have purchased - but not by a factor or OOM - maybe 40% more than i paid for the NOS Radice i just got.

they DO make quality pipes!

doody.

 

[daveinlax]

I'm not so sure that is a Dunhill. There were fakes floating around at one time, perhaps there still are. I only have three to compare, but none of mine has the Dunhill stamp mis-aligned like this one. Don't like the looks of it. The over-reaming is peculiar, as mentioned. What with, and why? Anyone know if Dunhill actually made a meerschaum-lined pipe? The idea seems ludicrous, but I suppose possible. It's a 1967, right? A bit too early to have attained its cult status, so maybe.

They did indeed make a meer lined pipe. The fakes I am familiar with were all stamped with patents. IMO this is way to common to be a fake.
http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/peterson/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=40768

 

[Anonymous]

I was looking at a birth year pipe too. But, mine was petrified; so I passed and they put it back in the excavation.

 

[Mr. Doody]

I was looking at a birth year pipe too.  But, mine was petrified; so I passed and they put it back in the excavation.

ROTFLMAO!

GREAT find, daveinlax. i bet that's EXACTLY what that $38 pipe USED to be like.

doody

 

[riff raff]

Very interesting Dave, I had no idea this was afoot.

I'm not so sure that is a Dunhill. There were fakes floating around at one time, perhaps there still are. I only have three to compare, but none of mine has the Dunhill stamp mis-aligned like this one. Don't like the looks of it. The over-reaming is peculiar, as mentioned. What with, and why? Anyone know if Dunhill actually made a meerschaum-lined pipe? The idea seems ludicrous, but I suppose possible. It's a 1967, right? A bit too early to have attained its cult status, so maybe.

They did indeed make a meer lined pipe. The fakes I am familiar with were all stamped with patents. IMO this is way to common to be a fake.
http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/peterson/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=40768

 

[Richard Burley]

Puzzle solved, as far as I'm concerned. And here I was joking in my first post. The idea of taking a Dunhill and sticking a lining in it seems atrocious to me, but whatever people want or seem to want goes, in business. Any Castellos out there with a meer lining? How about a Rad Davis?...eh?...corn cob? It's an affront to taste and decency, as Ignatius Reilly* would have said.


* Pointless allusion to "A Confederacy of Dunces," a book.

 

[Fr_Tom]

I was looking at a birth year pipe too.  But, mine was petrified; so I passed and they put it back in the excavation.

Maybe you should get a morta?

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Hey Cart, look at it this way: your stems are so nicely done they look like replacements, and they're worth $10. :lol:

:tongue:

8)

 

[RDPipes]

Hey Cart, look at it this way:  your stems are so nicely done they look like replacements, and they're worth $10.   :lol: 

:tongue:

8)

1000's of comedians out of work and you decide to be one.
Keep your day job Kyle.

 

[Anonymous]

I was looking at a birth year pipe too.  But, mine was petrified; so I passed and they put it back in the excavation.

Maybe you should get a morta?

Good idea. I figured I'd have to look for a Prehistoric.

 

[Fr_Tom]

Good idea.  I figured I'd have to look for a Prehistoric.

The Prehistorics are more affordable for sure. At a recent clergy retreat, one of the smokers had a Prehistoric and was smoking LBF. I knew we were going to hit it off. It turns out his grandmother gave it to his grandfather when he was born. The grandfather gave it to him. What a great pipe for him to have and be enjoying!

 

[Brewdude]

Okay, I'll try to respond to all here.

Meer lining, that is a good question, it looks like it may have had one.
But, I've seen Dunhill's with pretty thin walls before, maybe not that thin though.

Numerical weak, yeah but, not that bad I don't think. Stem replaced, no, cause I'm the one that restored it.
The bowl again, over reamed? What kind of reamer did the guy have? Drill press mounted? LOL!

Bowl again, thin walls. Yeah, they are pretty thin.

Your probably all right, the bowl. Since Richard pointed it out, I wonder if it could have possibly had a meer lining?
To ream it out that much I just can't imagine but, I reckon anything is possible when people are involved. LOL!
Thank you guys for your replies. I've learned a little bit more today, one is to stay the hell away from Dunhill's cause I'm clueless about them.
Never like the looks of most of them anyway. (sour grapes anyone?)

So Ron, you made the replacement stem? Looks OK to me but that's just from a pic.

The overwhelming thing that I noticed were the over thin walls. I'm no Dunnie expert by any means, but can't think they made a pipe with walls this thin. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Cheers,

RR

 

[RDPipes]

Okay, I'll try to respond to all here.

Meer lining, that is a good question, it looks like it may have had one.
But, I've seen Dunhill's with pretty thin walls before, maybe not that thin though.

Numerical weak, yeah but, not that bad I don't think. Stem replaced, no, cause I'm the one that restored it.
The bowl again, over reamed? What kind of reamer did the guy have? Drill press mounted? LOL!

Bowl again, thin walls. Yeah, they are pretty thin.

Your probably all right, the bowl. Since Richard pointed it out, I wonder if it could have possibly had a meer lining?
To ream it out that much I just can't imagine but, I reckon anything is possible when people are involved. LOL!
Thank you guys for your replies. I've learned a little bit more today, one is to stay the hell away from Dunhill's cause I'm clueless about them.
Never like the looks of most of them anyway. (sour grapes anyone?)

So Ron, you made the replacement stem? Looks OK to me but that's just from a pic.

The overwhelming thing that I noticed were the over thin walls. I'm no Dunnie expert by any means, but can't think they made a pipe with walls this thin. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Cheers,

RR

That's the original stem sir, I just restored it. I realize that this pipe had at one time a meer lining most likely. It probably got dropped or someone tried to ream it and broke it and then dug it out and tried to smoke it without. This is the way he got it. Seeing some pretty thin bowls on these and others I just assumed that's the way it was. I have a French made chimney that has the same thickness of bowl but, much smaller in diameter so I took for granted. Now I know I was wrong.