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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cigrmaster" data-source="post: 342060" data-attributes="member: 2528"><p>I have always used the Dunhill group sizes as a guide and it has been very useful to me when buying a new pipe. Because there is so much variation in the same group number, I never take any description as an absolute. When someone is selling a group 5 pipe I know it could be a small 5 a big 5 or a medium 5.  When I am buying a pipe I will always make sure I have all the bowl dimensions in either inches or MM or CM and never rely solely on a group number. I like when someone lists their pipes using the Dunhill group designation as if someone says they are selling  a group 1, I know just from that one description, it is too small and I do not have to read anymore of their add.</p></blockquote><p></p>