that was my first try at it, that was about three months ago and it has not been easy waiting to start another. that was a prebored a pipe shop about 45 minutes away has had sitting on the shelf for over a year and it was only $32, they had two. gonna go back in the next week to get the other one; hope its still there :face:. Any body suggest a good prebore plateau kit, the tobacconist didn't remember what company he got it from he had it so long.