Kentucky Leaf?

[Jonesey]

Good afternoon Brothers,

I have been enjoying G.L. Pease's Jack Knife Plug since I started smoking a pipe a little over a year ago. It is a tobacco of which I never grow bored with. Always delivers that genuine tobacco taste and nic content I crave. I never say "Nah..." to JKP when deciding on which tobacco to fill my bowl with (small bowl, because if I fill a large bowl I'll keep puffing till I'm green!). My question is, what exactly is Kentucky leaf? Is it a process like Perique or Cavendish? Is it a variety of Burley (which is what I suspect) or a distinct class of tobacco like VA? Also, are there any other blends similair to JKP using Kentucky leaf I might enjoy? Thanks in advance for your tobacco wisdom!

 

[DrumsAndBeer]

From my understanding Kentucky is a rich condiment tobacco that is typically cured over fire much like Latakia. It has a distinct robust flavor and is typically used to add body or weight to tobacco mixtures. It also packs a punch. :drunken:

I also understand that the leaf that is used to make Kentucky Fire Cured is different than what we've come to know as Burley, which was originally grown in Ohio from a seed that originated in Kentucky.

EDIT - According to the info on this page "Kentucky" is burley, just cured differently, as burley is typically air cured. (So what do I know?) http://www.outwesttobacco.com/About_Tobacco.htm

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Pick up for yourself GLP's new release "Navigator," if you want a different take on his work with Kentucky.


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[Slartibartfast]

My understanding has always been that Kentucky is a dark leaf variety of burley which is fire cured. Burley comes in both a dark leaf variety and a lighter leaf variety generally known as White Burley and both varieties are most typically air cured. Hence the confusion - two varieties, two curing methods. FWIW I've never heard of White Burley being fire cured, but I suppose it's possible.

 

[Jonesey]

Pick up for yourself GLP's new release "Navigator," if you want a different take on his work with Kentucky.


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Thanks Kyle, I will. Sounds intriguing. What's your take on it?

 

[monbla256]

My understanding has always been that Kentucky is a dark leaf variety of burley which is fire cured. Burley comes in both a dark leaf variety and a lighter leaf variety generally known as White Burley and both varieties are most typically air cured. Hence the confusion - two varieties, two curing methods. FWIW I've never heard of White Burley being fire cured, but I suppose it's possible.

This :cheers:

 

[Carlos]

It would seem that there are different grades of the stuff. At least, some better than others. There is an interesting little note done by GL Pease on his web site about it. Look under the description of Cumberland.

 

[Jonesey]

My understanding has always been that Kentucky is a dark leaf variety of burley which is fire cured. Burley comes in both a dark leaf variety and a lighter leaf variety generally known as White Burley and both varieties are most typically air cured. Hence the confusion - two varieties, two curing methods. FWIW I've never heard of White Burley being fire cured, but I suppose it's possible.

This :cheers:

So what I'm getting is, it's a down-home, hillbilly Latakia :rabbit:

 

[monbla256]

My understanding has always been that Kentucky is a dark leaf variety of burley which is fire cured. Burley comes in both a dark leaf variety and a lighter leaf variety generally known as White Burley and both varieties are most typically air cured. Hence the confusion - two varieties, two curing methods. FWIW I've never heard of White Burley being fire cured, but I suppose it's possible.

This :cheers:

So what I'm getting is, it's a down-home, hillbilly Latakia :rabbit:

That's one way you could look at it :twisted:

 

[Jonesey]

My understanding has always been that Kentucky is a dark leaf variety of burley which is fire cured. Burley comes in both a dark leaf variety and a lighter leaf variety generally known as White Burley and both varieties are most typically air cured. Hence the confusion - two varieties, two curing methods. FWIW I've never heard of White Burley being fire cured, but I suppose it's possible.

This :cheers:

So what I'm getting is, it's a down-home, hillbilly Latakia :rabbit:

That's one way you could look at it :twisted:

Or, Latakia is a high-falootin' furrin' Kentucky! I found Solani's Aged Burley Flake very similar to JKP though I don't think it's fire-cured.

 

[DrumsAndBeer]

Hillbilly Latakia, I like that. I didn't know about dark and light leaf varieties of burley. Interesting info, thanks.

Also Jonesey, since you enjoy JKP, you should give Triple Play a try out. It's got some perique in it, but it's nicely done. Also pick up a tin of Mac Baren Old Dark Fired. Excellent stuff.

 

[Jonesey]

Hillbilly Latakia, I like that. I didn't know about dark and light leaf varieties of burley. Interesting info, thanks.

Also Jonesey, since you enjoy JKP, you should give Triple Play a try out. It's got some perique in it, but it's nicely done. Also pick up a tin of Mac Baren Old Dark Fired. Excellent stuff.

Will do...And, yes, thanks all for the great info!

 

[George Kaplan]

+1 for MacB's Old Dark Fired.

 

[sisyphus]

+1 for MacB's Old Dark Fired.

This.

also, despite being so flavored it borders on aromatic, Heinrichs Dark Strong Flake is a nice tobacco too.

 

[Anonymous]

If you like traditional shag-cuts, Weyman's, Five Brothers & Cutty Pipe. Those have been around longer than I have.

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[BigCasino]

I tried chewing 5 brothers as a young man, couldn't get into it that way, I remember you could find tobacco like cutty pipe, and 5 brothers, P.A., half and half.... many others at every grocery store that sold snuff, side chew and cigarettes, now I can't remember the last time I saw any of them at the grocery store :roll:

 

[Anonymous]

Many Old School, Traditional Burley guys swear by them. Morleysson was one, as I recall.

To the best of my understanding, they're leftovers of Lancaster Co. (Penna.) shade-grown cigar wrapper (Burley) cased with grade "D" maple syrup (not a quality put-down ; grade "A" is First Run = premium pancake surup : light in color & flavor. "C" is darkish, more intense & mixed with other stuff for table use or used for candy &c. flavoring. "D" is the tail end of the spring run -- the "oscuro" of maple syrup). Waste not, want not.

Good stuff, if you like it.

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[Kyle Weiss]

If you like, Jonesey: https://www.brothersofbriar.com/t20580-i-just-tried-gl-pease-navigator?highlight=navigator

I don't think ODF is really Kentucky, though. Kentucky-like, in process...but I think nowadays I can pick out Kentucky by the slight, faint and different-but-related-somehow notion to Perique the stuff has. Though it seems to get along with my palate better than the Cajun Leaf does. ODF is still really damn good.

D-Maple is great for cooking and tea-sweetening. Kind of the molasses of maple sugar products. Really amazing stuff, from what I hear, the boiling process leaves residue and this is scraped up like a resin and mixed with the last-of-the-spring sap and made into "D." All totally different flavors, and yeah, why waste tasty tree gold like that? I like the darker stuff by far...more concentrated.

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[Jonesey]

If you like, Jonesey: https://www.brothersofbriar.com/t20580-i-just-tried-gl-pease-navigator?highlight=navigator

I don't think ODF is really Kentucky, though. Kentucky-like, in process...but I think nowadays I can pick out Kentucky by the slight, faint and different-but-related-somehow notion to Perique the stuff has. Though it seems to get along with my palate better than the Cajun Leaf does. ODF is still really damn good.

D-Maple is great for cooking and tea-sweetening. Kind of the molasses of maple sugar products. Really amazing stuff, from what I hear, the boiling process leaves residue and this is scraped up like a resin and mixed with the last-of-the-spring sap and made into "D." All totally different flavors, and yeah, why waste tasty tree gold like that? I like the darker stuff by far...more concentrated.

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Thanks Kyle, I really need to lurk more :cyclops: