Volcano Burnout?

[Milan]

I bought a used pipe and received it in the mail today. It is quite a pipe. I noticed that a small portion of the inner wall has burned out. This has caused the bowl to appear concaved on the inner side of the bowl. It looks concaved by about 1/8 or 2/8 of an inch. Is this common for volcanos? Is it a red flag or is it really no big deal? The pipe was described as lightly used and well cared for. Burnout in general doesn't reflect light use and care to me. I don't know. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Milan

 

[mark]

Sounds like a problem to me,,,,RED FLAG,,,

 

[MisterE]

Well if you really puff it hard and you get that soft spot burning, you´ll have a true "Volcano pipe"..... :lol!: :lol!: :lol!:

 

[MisterE]

Seriously though, if the cake on the pipe is really built up, it can chip off and look like there´s a burn spot. Impossible to tell without photos though.

 

[Milan]

This was the best photo I could get. It shows my concern. Do you see what I believe to be burnout about a quarter inch below the rim? This continues about half way down the bowl. I would assume that the flush wall on the left would continue all the way around the bowl if this pipe was lightly used? I mean there is a ridge where the bowl lining is burned out. Right? Will this only get worse with time?
Thanks,
Milan

 

[LL]

That's a bad burn. If there's no corresponding darkening on the outside of the bowl, it was caused by too-hot smoking. If there is, it's a burnout in process from a flaw in the wood. Either way, you lose. Definitely not normal/acceptable.

 

[Milan]

There is no darkening on the outside of the bowl. The external aesthetics of the pipe are excellent. I have the option to return the pipe if I'm not satisfied. I'm assuming you would do this and look elsewhere?
Thanks,
Milan

 

[Hermit]

There is no darkening on the outside of the bowl. The external aesthetics of the pipe are excellent. I have the option to return the pipe if I'm not satisfied. I'm assuming you would do this and look elsewhere?
Thanks,
Milan

Oh yeah.

 

[LL]

What Hermit said.

 

[Sasquatch]

That's a bad burn. If there's no corresponding darkening on the outside of the bowl, it was caused by too-hot smoking. If there is, it's a burnout in process from a flaw in the wood. Either way, you lose. Definitely not normal/acceptable.

This.

 

[Rad Davis]

Did you buy that pipe on Ebay last week?

Rad

 

[Harlock999]

Well if you really puff it hard and you get that soft spot burning, you´ll have a true "Volcano pipe"..... :lol!: :lol!: :lol!:

While certainly not a laughing matter ( :lol: ), the idea of a burnt out volcano is, well, somewhat ironic...

 

[Milan]

Did you buy that pipe on Ebay last week?
Rad

I did buy it on eBay last week and funny you would ask because you actually made it. It blew my mind when I saw it. The lines and shape, the size, the grain and color. I was siked! My elation over owning it became concern when I saw inside the upper bowl chamber. Bummed to say the least. The seller didn't show the burn in the pictures and actually described it as having 'very little use'. He accepts returns and I have already spoken with him, so I'll be returning it today. It's truly sad that such a beautiful pipe has such a bad burn.
Milan

 

[Rad Davis]

Did you buy that pipe on Ebay last week?
Rad

I did buy it on eBay last week and funny you would ask because you actually made it. It blew my mind when I saw it. The lines and shape, the size, the grain and color. I was siked! My elation over owning it became concern when I saw inside the upper bowl chamber. Bummed to say the least. The seller didn't show the burn in the pictures and actually described it as having 'very little use'. He accepts returns and I have already spoken with him, so I'll be returning it today. It's truly sad that such a beautiful pipe has such a bad burn.
Milan

I thought I recognized it. The seller emailed me about it before he put it up for sale wanting some general info about when it was made, what the emblem was, etc.

That's the biggest (it was a custom order) of those A.S.P. pipes I made that year and the only one with a hand cut stem.

Too bad about the burn area. That looks like pipe abuse to me. :x

I'm glad you're able to return it.

Rad

 

[Natch]

The apparent shading and cracking of the cake indicate a notable depression on that part of the inner-bowl. As indicated above, not a good thing. Glad Rad weighed in. It must "kill" an artisan to see their work abused or mistreated?

Natch

 

[Harlock999]

Did you buy that pipe on Ebay last week?

Rad

I'm just curious Mr. Davis, is it always so easy for you to recognize one of your pieces from a photo?

 

[Rad Davis]

Did you buy that pipe on Ebay last week?

Rad

I'm just curious Mr. Davis, is it always so easy for you to recognize one of your pieces from a photo?

Sometimes. :lol:

From my email exchange with the seller (he never mentioned condition, just wanted to know when it was made and what the emblem was) I just happened to know that the pipe had been listed when it was, and I watched it on Ebay. So when I saw the pic with the burn, I recognized the pipe.

Rad

 

[Harlock999]

Did you buy that pipe on Ebay last week?

Rad

I'm just curious Mr. Davis, is it always so easy for you to recognize one of your pieces from a photo?

Sometimes. :lol:

From my email exchange with the seller (he never mentioned condition, just wanted to know when it was made and what the emblem was) I just happened to know that the pipe had been listed when it was, and I watched it on Ebay. So when I saw the pic with the burn, I recognized the pipe.

Rad

That's interesting, thanks. I've heard that some carvers collect their own pipes, have you ever felt compelled to "buy back" one of yours? And if I'm being too nosy, just give me one of these " :tongue: ", and I'll get the hint.

 

[Rad Davis]

Did you buy that pipe on Ebay last week?

Rad

I'm just curious Mr. Davis, is it always so easy for you to recognize one of your pieces from a photo?

Sometimes. :lol:

From my email exchange with the seller (he never mentioned condition, just wanted to know when it was made and what the emblem was) I just happened to know that the pipe had been listed when it was, and I watched it on Ebay. So when I saw the pic with the burn, I recognized the pipe.

Rad

That's interesting, thanks. I've heard that some carvers collect their own pipes, have you ever felt compelled to "buy back" one of yours? And if I'm being too nosy, just give me one of these " :tongue: ", and I'll get the hint.

I don't collect my own pipes. I don't think that would be a good business model.

The only time I feel compelled to "buy back" one of my pipes is if a customer has a problem with one, and there's nothing that can be done except to give a refund or replace the pipe.

Rad

 

[Harlock999]

I don't collect my own pipes. I don't think that would be a good business model. Rad

:lol: I agree! Thank you again, it's very interesting to hear the carver's view point.