Acorti, most underappreciated of the high end pipe makers?

[RDPipes]

My questions seeks to further quantify the original question ...

What is a "high end pipe maker"?
What is a "low end pipe maker"?  
Are there any other levels?  
(eg: couldn't give it away on eBay end, very low end, ultra high end, super ultra high end, uber alles)

Where does Cart fall on this scale?

High grade Turd turner!

 

[RobJ]

:lol!: :lol!: :lol!:

 

[eklektos44]

My questions seeks to further quantify the original question ...

What is a "high end pipe maker"?
What is a "low end pipe maker"?  
Are there any other levels?  
(eg: couldn't give it away on eBay end, very low end, ultra high end, super ultra high end, uber alles)

Where does Cart fall on this scale?

For me a "high end" pipe is one where the quality of the pipe is not going to be an issue. The standards of craftsmanship are such that the lemons are for the most part not an issue. However anyone can let something slip by, accidents happen. I don't think that relates to cost per se.

 

[RDPipes]

:lol!: :lol!: :lol!:

Hey, it's the truth. I make pipes that are limited by the tools and machinery I have and of course my knowledge and abillity.
Yes, I could do them completely by hand without the help of my very small lathe but,
then it would take substantially more time to do and I'm afraid I just can't sit and or
stand that long to do what would be needed without being in substantial pain.
So, somebody better buy my pipes for shameful amounts of money so I can afford bigger
and nicer equipment.  
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[eklektos44]

:lol!: :lol!: :lol!:

Hey, it's the truth. I make pipes that are limited by the tools and machinery I have.
Yes, I could do them completely by hand without the help of my very small lathe but,
then it would take substantially more time to do and I'm afraid I just can't sit and or
stand that long to do what would be needed without being in substantial pain.
So, somebody better buy my pipes for shameful amounts of money so I can afford bigger
and nicer equipment.  
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I don't think there's a lot of pipes out there that are made solely with hand tools. And your pipes are just fine Ron. I like them! :cheers:

 

[joshoowah]

My questions seeks to further quantify the original question ...

What is a "high end pipe maker"?
What is a "low end pipe maker"?  
Are there any other levels?  
(eg: couldn't give it away on eBay end, very low end, ultra high end, super ultra high end, uber alles)

Where does Cart fall on this scale?

Low end pipe makers are typically factory pipes, such as Savinelli, Peterson, Chacom, Comoy, etc. It does not necessarily mean they are bad pipes, just on the low end of the spectrum. For what it's worth, I have a Savinelli and Peterson that could compete with the best of them.

High end pipe makers are typically those makers in which every facet of their pipe is handmade and hand finished, but just because one hand ales their pipes does not make them a high end pipe maker. Many things go into being considered a high end pipe maker, such as aesthetics, functionality, and so on.

There are also mid-grade pipe makers, those in which may be better quality factory pipes or handmade pipes that don't quite make the cut on the high end market.

For the sake of providing an example in terms of italian makers:

Low grade: Savinelli
Mid-grade: Ascorti, Caminetto, Il Ceppo
High grade: Becker

 

[RDPipes]

My questions seeks to further quantify the original question ...

What is a "high end pipe maker"?
What is a "low end pipe maker"?  
Are there any other levels?  
(eg: couldn't give it away on eBay end, very low end, ultra high end, super ultra high end, uber alles)

Where does Cart fall on this scale?

Low end pipe makers are typically factory pipes, such as Savinelli, Peterson, Chacom, Comoy, etc.  It does not necessarily mean they are bad pipes, just on the low end of the spectrum. For what it's worth, I have a Savinelli and Peterson that could compete with the best of them.

High end pipe makers are typically those makers in which every facet of their pipe is handmade and hand finished, but just because one hand ales their pipes does not make them a high end pipe maker. Many things go into being considered a high end pipe maker, such as aesthetics, functionality, and so on.

There are also mid-grade pipe makers, those in which may be better quality factory pipes or handmade pipes that don't quite make the cut on the high end market.

For the sake of providing an example in terms of italian makers:

Low grade: Savinelli
Mid-grade: Ascorti, Caminetto, Il Ceppo
High grade: Becker

I would have put Becker at extremely High grade, only because of there prices having not been able to smoke one. :fpalm:

 

[eklektos44]

My questions seeks to further quantify the original question ...

What is a "high end pipe maker"?
What is a "low end pipe maker"?  
Are there any other levels?  
(eg: couldn't give it away on eBay end, very low end, ultra high end, super ultra high end, uber alles)

Where does Cart fall on this scale?

Low end pipe makers are typically factory pipes, such as Savinelli, Peterson, Chacom, Comoy, etc.  It does not necessarily mean they are bad pipes, just on the low end of the spectrum. For what it's worth, I have a Savinelli and Peterson that could compete with the best of them.

High end pipe makers are typically those makers in which every facet of their pipe is handmade and hand finished, but just because one hand ales their pipes does not make them a high end pipe maker. Many things go into being considered a high end pipe maker, such as aesthetics, functionality, and so on.

There are also mid-grade pipe makers, those in which may be better quality factory pipes or handmade pipes that don't quite make the cut on the high end market.

For the sake of providing an example in terms of italian makers:

Low grade: Savinelli
Mid-grade: Ascorti, Caminetto, Il Ceppo
High grade: Becker

I would have put Becker at extremely High grade, only because of there prices having not been able to smoke one. :fpalm:

Well, you could always get this one! $10k ain't so much.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dunhill-Landing-On-The-Moon-40th-Anniversary-Pipe-Tamper-40-Of-Only-40-Made-/400910510641?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d5820ea31

:fpalm:

 

[joshoowah]

My questions seeks to further quantify the original question ...

What is a "high end pipe maker"?
What is a "low end pipe maker"?  
Are there any other levels?  
(eg: couldn't give it away on eBay end, very low end, ultra high end, super ultra high end, uber alles)

Where does Cart fall on this scale?

Low end pipe makers are typically factory pipes, such as Savinelli, Peterson, Chacom, Comoy, etc.  It does not necessarily mean they are bad pipes, just on the low end of the spectrum. For what it's worth, I have a Savinelli and Peterson that could compete with the best of them.

High end pipe makers are typically those makers in which every facet of their pipe is handmade and hand finished, but just because one hand ales their pipes does not make them a high end pipe maker. Many things go into being considered a high end pipe maker, such as aesthetics, functionality, and so on.

There are also mid-grade pipe makers, those in which may be better quality factory pipes or handmade pipes that don't quite make the cut on the high end market.

For the sake of providing an example in terms of italian makers:

Low grade: Savinelli
Mid-grade: Ascorti, Caminetto, Il Ceppo
High grade: Becker

I would have put Becker at extremely High grade, only because of there prices having not been able to smoke one. :fpalm:

Yeah, the high grade range is much more vast than that of low or mid grades.

 

[RDPipes]

Nah! I'm not a real Dunhill lover. That one looks to me as just another golf club look'en pipe like most there's with some fancy shmancy silver and NASA propaganda inscribed on it.
This is one of four Dunhill's I've ever wanted and goes for about the same price.

 

[eklektos44]

Nah! I'm not a real Dunhill lover. That one looks to me as just another golf club look'en pipe like most there's with some fancy shmancy silver and NASA propaganda inscribed on it.
This is one of four Dunhill's I've ever wanted and goes for about the same price.

Impressive, but I fear unsmokable for me. The piggyback would last about as long as it took me to crook my finger over the shank without thinking.

 

[RDPipes]

At the shameful price I would have to pay just to own it, ya think I'm going to even think about getting a match even in the same room with it? And now, I certainly wouldn't let you handle it unless you were across the room Big Thumb! :fpalm:

 

[eklektos44]

Yes, I do, I do have big thumbs...

 

[tslots]

Well, you could always get this one! $10k ain't so much.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dunhill-Landing-On-The-Moon-40th-Anniversary-Pipe-Tamper-40-Of-Only-40-Made-/400910510641?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d5820ea31

:fpalm:

Interesting possibility, but as the book is not included, I'll have to pass.

 

[RDPipes]

Well, you could always get this one! $10k ain't so much.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dunhill-Landing-On-The-Moon-40th-Anniversary-Pipe-Tamper-40-Of-Only-40-Made-/400910510641?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d5820ea31

:fpalm:

Interesting possibility, but as the book is not included, I'll have to pass.

There's a Book?

 

[eklektos44]

Interesting take from Giancarlo Savinelli on the whole Italian thing:

http://pipesmagazine.com/blog/pipesmoke/the-italian-renaissance-part-ii-meet-the-pipemakers/

 

[riff raff]

Folks, we have a three page thread on Ascorti pipes and the merits between the new and old styles.
And we have one picture - of a Dunhill........

It would be interesting to see some pictures of the Ascorti pipe finishes between the different ears. Particularly since everyone appears so galvanized by the differences.

 

[RDPipes]

Folks, we have a three page thread on Ascorti pipes and the merits between the new and old styles.
And we have one picture - of a Dunhill........

It would be interesting to see some pictures of the Ascorti pipe finishes between the different ears.  Particularly since everyone appears so galvanized by the differences.  

Now why on earth would we do that Riff, it makes too much sense.

 

[joshoowah]

I'll post a pic of an Ascorti I find quite desirable, which is rare for me:

Nevertheless, I'd never pay the $400 asking price for it. It's been on eBay for about two years now, so something tells me no one else is willing to pay that for it either.

 

[RDPipes]

Okay, I only have three and here's two of them.