Apple or Tomato?

[AJ]

I was under the impression that this Mauro Armellini was a bent apple. A friend of mine stopped by and when I showed it to him he called it a tomato. I asked him why he called it that and he replied, "That's what it is." When asked what's the difference he didn't answer. So what's the difference between an apple and a tomato shaped pipe? Anyone got a definitive answer?

Thanks for responding.
AJ

 

[daveinlax]

to my eye an apple is a bulging billiard and a tomato is shorter, a lot fatter and rounder.  Because of the shank I'd your pipe a freehand (apple). Love that buffed plateau! :shock:

 

[Sasquatch]

Clearly more "Red Delicious" than "Roma".


Lots (all) of these shape names kind of move on a sliding scale. It isn't exactly clear when a Dublin becomes a Zulu (or flares out to be a Calabash shape or rounds out to become a horn). It isn't exactly clear when a billiard becomes a brandy (fat ass) or an apple (fat pecs?).

To me, this is more apple than tomato because I consider the thickest part of the bowl to be above the mid-line. If you take a billiard and bulge out the bottom you get a brandy, the middle a tomato, and the top third an apple. Or something.

So.. your friend is wrong, and owes you at the very least 100g of Scottish Cake for the insult he has offered to you and your family. (worth a try anyhow!)

 

[Briar Spirit]

I couldn't argue either way to be honest but I would consider it an apple, looks more like an apple than a tomato to me but either way it's a fascinating pipe. :cheers: 

 

[pepesdad1]

Beautiful pipe...perfect for you Aj. Imagine that packed with your Special Blend, fired up and ready to take you to dreamland. Hell, your Special Blend takes me to dreamland in any pipe..and that's a fact.

 

[Anonymous]

Maybe this helps:

 

[Slartibartfast]

 

[Kyle Weiss]

I'd say freehandish-apple; though I'm going to cite Sas' post above as to why. :shrug:

 

[pepesdad1]

Thanks, JKenP. Appreciate having a complete chart with the newer non-classical shapes.

 

[Smoker99]

To me, definitely not an apple. Wider and more open at the top than an apple.

 

[Zeno Marx]

neither

 

[monbla256]

neither

THIS. It's neither as it doesn't conform to either of those shapes as they are production turned and this one is a freehand shaped style. Anyway, it's your pipe so you can call it what you want :twisted: .

 

[Anonymous]

Let's call it a squashed apple.

Calling it a squashed tomato would just be too messy.

 

[kaiser83]

Really, none of you can see it? It's a plumarine (plum/nectarine)

 

[Trifecta13]

I actually spoke to Bob Keiss (Dr. Bob) at the Chicago show about this particular shape as I had recently acquired one of his making. He said that an apple is "a billiard with more voluptuous curves." A distinction that was passed on to him by someone in the past. While this may not be the technical definition of the shape, it works for me and I find the imagery associated quite enjoyable as well. I guess that the billiard may be the Hedy Lamarr to the apple's Jane Mansfield. As far as tomatoes go... No idea.

 

[SpeedyPete]

neither

Ditto

 

[Aristokles]

Quite obviously it is a tomapple. Anyone can see that...

 

[Anonymous]

If it had a heavily rusticated blond finish, I am sure it would be a hedge apple.

 

[SpeedyPete]

Quite obviously it is a tomapple. Anyone can see that...

Applemato ??

 

[gravel]