Bjarne

[Pheonix11525]

Im thinking of purchasing a bjarne viking in what it says is matte. Im assuming they mean the finish on it not being polished. It is relatively cheaper to buy it this way and whom i am purchasing the pipe from only offers them in this fashion but they are certainly bjarne pipes! Should I then go about purchasing then putting a finish on the bowl/shank myself? it is a 50$ pipe.

 

[Falconer]

I'd definately buy it but wouldn't mess with the finish. a matt finish is a nice addition to any collection. I have a couple and really like them.

 

[Pheonix11525]

I'd definately buy it but wouldn't mess with the finish. a matt finish is a nice addition to any collection. I have a couple and really like them.

Interesting, what do you like about the matte finish without a coating? I've never had one so I would not know.

 

[Falconer]

Well for one they're as smooth as the underside of a goats tail. feel really good in the hand. I thinki also it's said they breathe better giving a cooler moke than hard finished pipes. Okay it's time for the experts to chime in...Kap, Wiz, Dover, where are you guys?

 

[puros_bran]

Matte is a finish. They take a patina just like the shiny ones...
Matter of fact most of my shiny ones eventually look matte, might as well just start that way.

 

[Anonymous]

Matte is a finish. They take a patina just like the shiny ones...
Matter of fact most of my shiny ones eventually look matte, might as well just start that way.

Agreed.
If you want to shine it up I think some folks buff it with some wax (beeswax perhaps?).
I usually just hand polish with a soft cotton cloth occasionally.

 

[Pheonix11525]

thanks for the info guys! One more question to bother you with though .. I noticed that Bjarne Neilsen passed in 2008. Most of his pipes have the famous BJ logo featuring the J upside down and it is upon the stem. He also made and is famous for the viking line of pipes. Some of them featured a viking helmet logo upon the stem but not his regular logo. I also found out that people that worked for Neilsen have been allowed to continue to produce vikings under his name but only the viking helmet logo is allowed to be featured and they are just called viking pipes instead of bjarne. i guess for the pipes made after 2008. If i purchase a viking that was made after his death is it not as valuable? If I purchase one that is seemed to be made by him before or around 2008 with a helmet logo is it depreciated by the new vikings being made? As you can see I am worried as to which one to purchase because a few different pipes from both areas jump out at me!

Let me know what you guys think. I think if no one has a strong opinion Ill just have to call the people who distribute them and get to the bottom of it. But non the less I figured I would ask the "experts" : )

 

[puros_bran]

The Viking line is actually a second of his ungraded machine made pipes. They aren't collectables.


All in all buying pipes for investment is a bad move... The whims of the pipe boards will very quickly turn your 5 thousand Buck collection into a thousand Buck collection...
Your better off buying pipes to smoke and finding other things to use as investments.. Sure you want to buy low/sale high even as you use them for smoking purposes, but don't set out to make money,retain value, etc etc because you will end up being disappointed.

I have a decent collection of old Stanwells I snagged up before it became cool to to have them..When DPG started talking them up the price started rising and I quit buying them.. Eventually someone will start the next 'gotta have ' value pipe and everyone that high dollared my Stans will rush to sell them off and snag whatever it is the whimsical are chasing after and the price will go back to normal...
Don't buy pipes for investment purposes....

 

[Falconer]

The Viking line is actually a second of his ungraded machine made pipes. They aren't collectables.


All in all buying pipes for investment is a bad move... The whims of the pipe boards will very quickly turn your 5 thousand Buck collection into a thousand Buck collection...
Your better off buying pipes to smoke and finding other things to use as investments.. Sure you want to buy low/sale high even as you use them for smoking purposes, but don't set out to make money,retain value, etc etc because you will end up being disappointed.

I have a decent collection of old Stanwells I snagged up before it became cool to to have them..When DPG started talking them up the price started rising and I quit buying them.. Eventually someone will start the next 'gotta have ' value pipe and everyone that high dollared my Stans will rush to sell them off and snag whatever it is the whimsical are chasing after and the price will go back to normal...
Don't buy pipes for investment purposes....

Good advice from PB! Plus I have a Bjarne Viking and it smokes better than a lot of my more expensive ones.

 

[Pheonix11525]

The Viking line is actually a second of his ungraded machine made pipes. They aren't collectables.


All in all buying pipes for investment is a bad move... The whims of the pipe boards will very quickly turn your 5 thousand Buck collection into a thousand Buck collection...
Your better off buying pipes to smoke and finding other things to use as investments.. Sure you want to buy low/sale high even as you use them for smoking purposes, but don't set out to make money,retain value, etc etc because you will end up being disappointed.

I have a decent collection of old Stanwells I snagged up before it became cool to to have them..When DPG started talking them up the price started rising and I quit buying them.. Eventually someone will start the next 'gotta have ' value pipe and everyone that high dollared my Stans will rush to sell them off and snag whatever it is the whimsical are chasing after and the price will go back to normal...
Don't buy pipes for investment purposes....

Good advice from PB! Plus I have a Bjarne Viking and it smokes better than a lot of my more expensive ones.

Thanks guys but first off I am a pipe SMOKER not a pipe RESTER. I want this pipe to be my first QUALITY pipe. I just want to know I am not getting ripped off purchasing a bjarne with a viking logo on the stem when it says its made by Bjarne himself. I know his protoges are handmaking them. Do you really know if they are being machine made at 50 dollars a pop? if so that is really really ******(pardon my french). If thats true ill stick to grabow's or kaywoodies with tiny tiny airholes and hot hot non breathing smokes. YIKES. Im just looking for guidance here not ridicule or off oppinions on what I should think or dont know..

 

[Falconer]

The Viking line is actually a second of his ungraded machine made pipes. They aren't collectables.


All in all buying pipes for investment is a bad move... The whims of the pipe boards will very quickly turn your 5 thousand Buck collection into a thousand Buck collection...
Your better off buying pipes to smoke and finding other things to use as investments.. Sure you want to buy low/sale high even as you use them for smoking purposes, but don't set out to make money,retain value, etc etc because you will end up being disappointed.

I have a decent collection of old Stanwells I snagged up before it became cool to to have them..When DPG started talking them up the price started rising and I quit buying them.. Eventually someone will start the next 'gotta have ' value pipe and everyone that high dollared my Stans will rush to sell them off and snag whatever it is the whimsical are chasing after and the price will go back to normal...
Don't buy pipes for investment purposes....

Good advice from PB! Plus I have a Bjarne Viking and it smokes better than a lot of my more expensive ones.

Thanks guys but first off I am a pipe SMOKER not a pipe RESTER. I want this pipe to be my first QUALITY pipe. I just want to know I am not getting ripped off purchasing a bjarne with a viking logo on the stem when it says its made by Bjarne himself. I know his protoges are handmaking them. Do you really know if they are being machine made at 50 dollars a pop? if so that is really really ******(pardon my french). If thats true ill stick to grabow's or kaywoodies with tiny tiny airholes and hot hot non breathing smokes. YIKES. Im just looking for guidance here not ridicule or off oppinions on what I should think or dont know..

Well Pheo, since in your profile you are looking for recommendations my I suggest if it is a quality first pipe you're want then don't buy a Bjarne. There are plenty of other top quality makers out there that don't have all the underlying doubt and questions with them. Good luck.

 

[puros_bran]

Bro, lots of pipes are 'machine made' at waaaaaaaay higher price points....

Dunhill, Castello, Stanwell, Peterson.. Being 'machine made' doesn't make a pipe any better or worse from a smoking perspective. ANYWAY.


The cheaper line of Bjarnes, (sub $100 or so) weren't hand mades either. The only 'hand made' Bjarnes that were made had grade letters added on the shank.. Those will probably/maybe rise in value but not much, Bjarne never got the credit he deserved.

 

[Hermit]

You asked for advice. I did not see that anyone
tried to tell you what to think or ridiculed you.
I'll tell ya one thing; ya don't get a hand
carved artisan pipe for fifty bucks.
I have a Viking. It's a good pipe.

 

[Pheonix11525]

You asked for advice. I did not see that anyone
tried to tell you what to think or ridiculed you.
I'll tell ya one thing; ya don't get a hand
carved artisan pipe for fifty bucks.
I have a Viking. It's a good pipe.

alright I see your point guys. Sincerely I thank all of you for your advice. I guess I just will have to save up for something quality then. I didnt realize so many pipes are machine made these days even costing 100 bucks a pop. I guess I just want something a step up from a grabow and cobs.. I guess ill just still have to settle but I really only want to spend 70 bucks tops and i dont know if i want it to be a peterson just yet. I guess I shall just pass on the bjarne and keep spreading my wings with different types of tobaccos and keep testing my pallet for that kind of money till i get the ballz and money to drop on a good quality pipe..

 

[Hermit]

That's a good strategery.
If you have limited funds, buy tobacco.
Now is the time to stock up.
There's plenty of time to add pipes later.
When yer ready for a fine hand made
pipe, look at Mark Tinsky's site.

 

[beebiz]

Im just looking for guidance here not ridicule or off oppinions on what I should think or dont know..

Pheonix, when it comes to pipe smoking, I am still in my infancy. As such, I can in no way affix the title of pipe "expert" to my name!! Therefore, I figure that any opinions that I may have on the subject of pipes would be dismissed.

But, I am very, very experienced when it comes to internet forums and to people. Therefore, I would like to impart these thoughts to you. And, please keep in mind that they are tendered with the utmost respect for you as a new member (12 days newer than me ) of BoB!

In my short tenure, I have learned a tremendous amount about the brothers and this forum in general. Unlike any other group of people I have ever been associated with, this is a group that is quite appropriately named "Brothers of Briar!" Collectively, they could not muster a single mean spirited bone or ill intention if their lives depended on it... highly unusual for a "forum!!"

Sure, there are times when someone may appear a bit boisterous while voicing their opinion. Puros has been accused of such on an occasion or two! But, it is only because he is so passionate about those things he cares enough to comment on!

Kudos to you, brother Puros!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Neither Puros, Falconer, Hermit... nor any of the other brothers here will ever ridicule you... or, attempt to ram their opinions down your throat and force you to think the same way they do... never!!!

My brother, remember these things about the BoB brotherhood. First, if you ask the brothers for their opinion, they will freely, openly, and unashamedly give it!!! Ergo, if you don't want their input, don't ask for it!! Second, collectively... there are many, many years of experience and a plethora of information among the brothers! You would do well to heed them and follow their advice!! Finally, there will never... ever be any of the brothers here who can be rightly accused of intentionally misleading or misguiding you!!!

This community consists of a very, very special group of people. We are from all walks of life... all around the globe... all kinds of work backgrounds... each end of the financial spectrum and all points in between... with differing political and religious views... and, with more talent than a million seasons of "America's Got Talent!!" Despite our vast origins and differences, we get along in a fashion that is befitting the label "brotherhood." Why? Because we each care about the other enough to have a desire to see them do well and enjoy their adventure in the hobby of pipe smoking!! If you will simply accept it, they will extend that gift to you!!

I apologize for the "off topic." But, I felt those things needed saying. I thank you for your indulgence!

I will now be quiet!!

Robert

 

[puros_bran]

Machine made doesn't equate to garbage bro.. The whole concept of hand made/machine made is a subjective slippery slope anyway..Theres no such thing as completely machine made, just like theres no such thing as completely hand made.. And quality does not depend on How it was made in that regard. Isn't a lathe a machine?? Find a maker of 'hand mades' that doesn't use one.. What about the guy that takes the strummels off the machine that just cut 100 pieces of wood.. Thats machine made, right? even though he goes through them sorting them by grade and (hopefully) tossing the trash out.. How is that different than the guy that does them one at a time on his lathe?? The guy on the lathe serves the same function as the guy in front of whatever they call the strummel cutting machine.. The difference is he gets to spend a little more time on each piece of briar..
Tiny air holes, poor bits, etc etc isn't a by product of being machine made.. Its a by product of a total lack of quality control, or a total disregard for quality altogether. The step ups from a 20 buck pipe to a 50 buck pipe is usually giant leaps.. The $20 maker doesn't toss out the trash, the $50 maker tosses some out, the $100 maker tosses out even more, and on and on up the price ranges.. You pay for that quality control.

My advise, take it for what it cost you: You want a quality pipe in the $50 range?? ebay a nice estate Peterson or Stanwell, thats what I do.

 

[Pheonix11525]

Im just looking for guidance here not ridicule or off oppinions on what I should think or dont know..

Pheonix, when it comes to pipe smoking, I am still in my infancy. As such, I can in no way affix the title of pipe "expert" to my name!! Therefore, I figure that any opinions that I may have on the subject of pipes would be dismissed.

But, I am very, very experienced when it comes to internet forums and to people. Therefore, I would like to impart these thoughts to you. And, please keep in mind that they are tendered with the utmost respect for you as a new member (12 days newer than me ) of BoB!

In my short tenure, I have learned a tremendous amount about the brothers and this forum in general. Unlike any other group of people I have ever been associated with, this is a group that is quite appropriately named "Brothers of Briar!" Collectively, they could not muster a single mean spirited bone or ill intention if their lives depended on it... highly unusual for a "forum!!"

Sure, there are times when someone may appear a bit boisterous while voicing their opinion. Puros has been accused of such on an occasion or two! But, it is only because he is so passionate about those things he cares enough to comment on!

Kudos to you, brother Puros!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Neither Puros, Falconer, Hermit... nor any of the other brothers here will ever ridicule you... or, attempt to ram their opinions down your throat and force you to think the same way they do... never!!!

My brother, remember these things about the BoB brotherhood. First, if you ask the brothers for their opinion, they will freely, openly, and unashamedly give it!!! Ergo, if you don't want their input, don't ask for it!! Second, collectively... there are many, many years of experience and a plethora of information among the brothers! You would do well to heed them and follow their advice!! Finally, there will never... ever be any of the brothers here who can be rightly accused of intentionally misleading or misguiding you!!!

This community consists of a very, very special group of people. We are from all walks of life... all around the globe... all kinds of work backgrounds... each end of the financial spectrum and all points in between... with differing political and religious views... and, with more talent than a million seasons of "America's Got Talent!!" Despite our vast origins and differences, we get along in a fashion that is befitting the label "brotherhood." Why? Because we each care about the other enough to have a desire to see them do well and enjoy their adventure in the hobby of pipe smoking!! If you will simply accept it, they will extend that gift to you!!

I apologize for the "off topic." But, I felt those things needed saying. I thank you for your indulgence!

I will now be quiet!!

Robert

Highly appreciated comment. In all honesty you are right about heated passion when it comes to chatting and learning. I may have seemed heated in my approach to respond to my great feedback from you all brothers but at the same time I am just as passionate about learning. Ergo I do not see a problem and i know there are lines and we are pushing them just not crossing them. Nor would I ever try to. Great comment Great feedback just hope next time you make comments I hope it pertains to the topic even though you apologized about it already. I know we all love pipes but I try my best to get comments that pertains to fact and less oppinion so I can make a bias(ee) of my own in the future just like all you old grunts! jk jk : ). sorry for my pushy ness

 

[Pheonix11525]

Machine made doesn't equate to garbage bro.. The whole concept of hand made/machine made is a subjective slippery slope anyway..Theres no such thing as completely machine made, just like theres no such thing as completely hand made.. And quality does not depend on How it was made in that regard. Isn't a lathe a machine?? Find a maker of 'hand mades' that doesn't use one.. What about the guy that takes the strummels off the machine that just cut 100 pieces of wood.. Thats machine made, right? even though he goes through them sorting them by grade and (hopefully) tossing the trash out.. How is that different than the guy that does them one at a time on his lathe?? The guy on the lathe serves the same function as the guy in front of whatever they call the strummel cutting machine.. The difference is he gets to spend a little more time on each piece of briar..
Tiny air holes, poor bits, etc etc isn't a by product of being machine made.. Its a by product of a total lack of quality control, or a total disregard for quality altogether. The step ups from a 20 buck pipe to a 50 buck pipe is usually giant leaps.. The $20 maker doesn't toss out the trash, the $50 maker tosses some out, the $100 maker tosses out even more, and on and on up the price ranges.. You pay for that quality control.

My advise, take it for what it cost you: You want a quality pipe in the $50 range?? ebay a nice estate Peterson or Stanwell, thats what I do.

Puros! Thank you soo much for your advice man! I really quite appreciate! This is probably thee best comment reply to my topic. Pure almost non biased response of facts. You sir have brightened my day and shed light on my unfortunate temporary pipe insolence : ).

Thank you all who also commented on this topic as well. Gotta love the round table forum and all my topic posts pestering you all!

much love guys,

 

[Hermit]

Neither Puros, Falconer, Hermit... nor any of the other brothers here will ever ridicule you... or, attempt to ram their opinions down your throat and force you to think the same way they do... never!!!

That may be an overstatement. :twisted:
Ya never know.