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[GuitarMyFriend]

Three favorite bands?

three favorite authors?

three favorite movies?

1. Mumford & Sons, Crooked Still, Nickel Creek.
2. The Apostle Paul, Francis Chan, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
3. The Avengers, Patch Adams, August Rush.

Awesome Idea REV!!!!!!!!
Zach

 

[the rev]

Three favorite bands?

three favorite authors?

three favorite movies?

1. Mumford & Sons, Crooked Still, Nickel Creek.
2. The Apostle Paul, Francis Chan, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
3. The Avengers, Patch Adams, August Rush.

Awesome Idea REV!!!!!!!!
Zach

Hey Zach, I sincerely don't want to start any ****, and would love to talk about this off the board if you are down, but I just wonder, why Paul, over Matt, Mark, Luke or John? Don't get me wrong, I dig Paul, but I have been studying, and teaching out of Matthew for 25 years.

btw, big respect for Chan to do what he did

rev

 

[GuitarMyFriend]

Word up rev! I dig Paul because of romans. (I know he didn't right all of it.)
I believe we are focused too much on the fact that we are saved and we pay little attention to what we were saved from. Romans is all about the depravity of man, and its a huge eye opener to God fearing Christians. Stuff we need to know.
Zach

 

[the rev]

funny I say, "I think we focus too much on being saved, and not enough on what we are saved for" Which is why I focus on Jesus so much, we actually need to be walking in the footsteps of the master, caring for the poor, loving the outcasts, the heretics, the whores and sinners. And usually that means not being too well liked by the religious folk

rev

 

[sand18f]

funny I say, "I think we focus too much on being saved, and not enough on what we are saved for" Which is why I focus on Jesus so much, we actually need to be walking in the footsteps of the master, caring for the poor, loving the outcasts, the heretics, the whores and sinners. And usually that means not being too well liked by the religious folk

rev

That makes some folks just plain uncomfortable.

 

[sand18f]

Bands:
1. Pink Floyd (David Gilmour)
2. Allison Krause and Union Station
3. Stevie Ray Vaughn and Double Trouble

Authors:
1. Shelby Foote.
2. "The Bible" (Ephisians) Paul
3. William Faulkner

Movies:
1. "Lonesome Dove" by Larry McMurtry
2. "Tombstone"
3. "The Godfather Triology"

 

[GuitarMyFriend]

Rev that's a good way to put it. I practice Love, like Jesus did. I've always said, "The Goal is not to sin less, It's to LOVE more". And in loving more, you'll sin less... That easy.
Zach

(Shoot me a private message anytime Rev)

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Rev that's a good way to put it. I practice Love, like Jesus did. I've always said, "The Goal is not to sin less, It's to LOVE more". And in loving more, you'll sin less... That easy.

Not to further this, but this is good stuff. From a non-Christian, even. 8) Life shouldn't be about fear, it should be about recognition and enjoyment. I heard a sermon once that was entitled "Sin Happens." I was curious of the nonchalant title, so I stopped in (as I do from time to time at various places, or at least I used to when I had more time). It was very "Paul" derived, and it should have been titled, "Beyond the Sin." Do-wrong and forgiveness were put more into what one should do, productively, rather than what not to do, which while important, equated to lack of objectivity.

Interesting.

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[the rev]

hmmmm interested in that critique and thought Kyle

Could you expand on that a bit? One of the things that I struggle with is the very clear reading of Jesus shows him as a radical character, who worked among the grass roots, cared for the despised, stood up for the helpless and actually railed against the religious. And that he asked us to "follow him" going so far in that request that he attached the cross to it. In other words, do what I do even if it costs you your life.

rev

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Well, if we're gonna digress... :lol:

"Radical" in regard to "Big J" (Jesus) has been something I equate to His rock-stardom and accounts as such more than his approach, at least from what I gather. The guy was huge during, and obviously, after his just over three decade corporeal tour of terra-firma. He was doing something no one else had done. Saying things no one else had really said. He put together themes the needy, sick, poor and destitute appreciated, and gave them hope. He gave them faith in a time when the world needed it.

It's what he wasn't, to me, rather than what he was, that made him remarkable. He was rebellious. He was, to some, a heretic of current beliefs and process. He stood up when few others would, but did so in a peaceful manner rather than a violent one. He transcended human experience and produced with his life, and continues after death (and resurrection, if you're so inclined). Big J was punk rock personified, if you want a term we might both enjoy. He never let oppression or small numbers get to him, and he encouraged others to rise above and do what was necessary--even die.

He was love, personified. Many great teachers and men of the past were. Grand tyranny and grand love can both get some equal results control, stability, even hope--but love does more with less. Empathy, forgiveness, charity, and community come about in times when it is needed most, and Jesus was one of the pinnacles. It isn't what about He was, it was what he did...and what He did wasn't necessarily the answer: it's the content of His character that made the difference. Love is simply more efficient. Everything we do based upon it is a product. How we go about it is a natural enemy to this thing one might call "sin."

These are not new concepts. I find it interesting, though, more and more the "anti-sin," isn't as important as "pro-love" in more modern Christian directions.

This is a layman's assessment, but might be food for thought. *shrug*

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[the rev]

very well put, and I agree

rev