Pete 408...?

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Kyle Weiss

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Anyone have one (or a billion) of these?

I doubt much will tempt me away from my interest in the 80S shape, but I keep browsing and chinscratchin' over this shape, and really find it appealing. The overall size and chamber dimensions look just right, has a slight bend, and I have yet to see one in person. How are they drilled at the mortise/tenon, are they fitted or do they have that "empty non-system chamber" in the shank like an 80S? How do they smoke?

I'm a long, long way off from even considering purchasing one, but... I like to window shop. I want to be prepared for the future, too.

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...my vicarious pipe temptation turns to buying...and continues... :twisted:

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Kyle Weiss":1e0vb1g2 said:
I have one like this and a Donegal.

Great shape for the hand. Good capacity. 2 ODF flakes fits like a glove.

I didn't care for it until I held the first one. The pipe just feels right.
 
Doesn't matter how it's drilled. It's a Pete. :p Stay with the model ranges from the Rosslare and up, you will get better, older briar, less fills. You wan't it and you know it :twisted: Your'e just looking to be able to spread the "blame" when you do ! :twisted: :twisted:
 
That's a really nice shape, and the first pipe on the page has some obscenely gorgeous grain.
I'm just not a big fan of Peterson's stem profiles. I know it's one of the things that make their
pipes distinctively Peterson-ish, but I always wish they weren't so clunky looking.
Let the scolding begin... 8)
 
To me, the 408 is a hidden gem in the Peterson line. I've said it's my hand's favorite pipe. It just feels right, and smokes very well. If you're already eyeing them, I don't need to tell you they're good looking. Wanna borrow mine? I realize it's kinda weird to loan pipes; I should just trade it to you for a bargain, but I'm sentimentally attached to the one I've got. Seriously, Kyle, having you use it for a while would only add to that sentiment.

Ps: Harlock, you're wrong. Consider yourself scolded. :p
 
Had to go look at mine to check the drilling. It does, in fact, have more mortise than tenon, but I never noticed that before. It easily passes a cleaner from bit to bowl, and I habitually swab out the mortise of every pipe post-smoke, so there's not any gunk in the extra space. I honestly can't figure why it's drilled like that. Oh well. I think I'll stop thinking about it and try Slide's suggestion of two flakes of ODF.
 
George Kaplan":qv3tfcw9 said:
I think I'll stop thinking about it and try Slide's suggestion of two flakes of ODF.
The first step on the path of wisdom is to never follow my lead! :lol:
 
Thanks, gents.

PD--Stanwells are okay pipes, but their version you posted has a more delicate profile. I, unlike Harlock, actually like Pete "rubenesque" stature. If pipes are female, and I'm into female pipes (go figure, huh?), I want one with a little meat on her bones. Not too much, not starving. Not gargantuan, not tiny.

Though Harlock, my friend, the reason why I posted that first picture of that obscenely-grained 408 was just for that purpose...I felt my chest get that "funny feeling." I needed to walk away. :lol: The Rosslare/Donegal *shrug* (...the dark, rusticated one with the yellow stem, dammit... :lol: ) was my second fave. Hell, I like 'em all.

GK, I don't want to borrow a pipe. If I like it, you might not hear from me again. :lol: I'll find one eventually. The 408 shape is a hidden gem, and I think this may be my next Pete acquisition. I have a quartet of the nicest 80S pipes I could have hoped for, all of them gifts except one...the one I'm smoking today, matter'p'fact. Put 3P's in it...seemed like the right thing to do. It's not even above freezing out here, and I'm toasty.

A gifted Pete feels right. All of them came to me this year when I needed a little uplifting. That means I can never get rid of them. Peterson pipes are excellent sponges of sentiment. I'd hate to look at that 408 I borrowed and say, "Ah, GK, probably pissed I'm living next to Mister E in Mexico, as I enjoy this stolen pipe." :mrgreen:

Thanks for the insight, Brothers: especially about the drilling. I don't mind having a bit more mortise than tenon--I have a solution that works for it quite well. I gave Yak a pages long dissertation about it in a crazed email... :lol: Madness is fun. :)

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Kyle Weiss":8lf0fza8 said:
PD--Stanwells are okay pipes
Heretic!! :evil: Stanwells are the best production pipes created by Man (quality for cost). Petes have some swagger, but the engineering is absolutely a cut below Stanwell. Having owned and smoke at least a dozen of each, I proclaim this to be so and hereby order it etched into stone so the divine wisdom of this knowledge will be passed on for generations to come. And, so the stone can be whacked upside your unenlightened noggin until such time as the wisdom seeps into your brainage. :)

Kyle Weiss":8lf0fza8 said:
I unlike Harlock.
This ain't facebook. :tongue:
 
Kyle Weiss":bhvi30ck said:
Thanks, gents.

PD--Stanwells are okay pipes, but their version you posted has a more delicate profile. I, unlike Harlock, actually like Pete "rubenesque" stature.
Rubenesque is good.
I don't mind if a gal has calves as big around as my thighs, as long as they taper down nicely to a slender, well turned ankle.
Cankles, however, are a deal killer.
And for me, the standard Peterson stem profile is just a little too cankle-ish, or,
in this case, "shankle-ish"... 8)
 
I have three 408s -- a Donegal Rocky, a smooth sterling, both with P-lips, and a smooth 2001 St. Pat's Day, with a fishtail. All have the Sterling band. I like the nice, woody bowl -- always a good omen, if you ask me -- the shape, the size, their easy acceptance of whatever I stuff them with, and they just feel good if you're a holder. Buy it.
 
Stanwell pipes, that I've seen in person, anyway, don't call to my eye like a Pete...but the right Pete. Pete has some chunky monkeys, and there's only a handful I like...80S, 999 and now the 408. Stanwell pipes, to me, have a generic look to them often (again, of what I've seen, between Sacramento and Reno B&Ms) or they just aren't something that I shrug over. As far as smoking quality, I've never owned a Stanwell. When I find one I like (which isn't an "if"...I know how pipes go), I'm pretty confident they'd smoke just right.

Regardless of people's feelings of me unliking Harlock on Facebook, the Absolute Truth of Stanwell (ATS for short) I'm still going to get a 408 or two. Cankles and all. :cheers:

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(...by the way, the "Cankles" example picture is all wrong...I live in Nevada, and some of the porch-sitters that lounge about 'round these parts have the same diameter appendage from knee to heel--a true cankle...the poor woman in that picture actually has an indentation at her ankle and dainty little feet...and where's the scabs and sores?)
 
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