...and posts on BoB... :lol:Vito":p5cb527g said:...pipemakers/vendors today have blurred the lines of nomenclature to the point wherein there's little consistency any more.
Agreed...which is why I think it's kind of silly to insist that "technically" a full bent pipe must have a vertical stem. I certainly don't insist on it.Sasquatch":dljoiuxm said:"Full Bent" - right at 90 degrees, is very, very rare.
Right, both are what I would call full bent pipes.monbla256":73bmzfgu said:...The Oom Pauls (or Hungarian as some refered to it) were considered as very full bent.
Good point, PD. :lol:Puff Daddy":i0wh4fo8 said:Careful Vito, you don't know where that hat's been :lol:
OK, cool. 8)Puff Daddy":tn2v3de4 said::lol: No, you're safe with me, no hats :lol:
Interesting that you should point this out, a buddy on another forum just bought a 5226 and he also has now one of each shape!Vito":y2an30ik said:Right, both are what I would call full bent pipes.monbla256":y2an30ik said:...The Oom Pauls (or Hungarian as some refered to it) were considered as very full bent.
Despite the continuing confusion between the Oom Paul and Hungarian nomenclatures, they are two very distinct shapes. The Oom Paul has a cylindrical bowl, and the Hungarian bowl is egg-shaped. At least, that's the way I learned it. But nowadaze, it's common to see "Hungarian" and "Oom Paul" used interchangeably, and both are applied to the Oom Paul shape. Meanwhile, the true Hungarian shape is apparently becoming an endangered species.
The genesis of the confusion between Oom Paul and Hungarian shapes isn't clear, but reportedly, it was instigated by Dunhill. As the story goes, being "good Englishmen", they weren't about to concede anything to "Uncle" Paul (Oom Paul) Kruger, who had been Britain's principal antagonist in the Boer Wars, after whom the cylindrical Oom Paul shape was named. Hence, Dunhill ascribed the moniker "Hungarian" to both shapes so as not to provide any politically incorrect recognition of Mr. Kruger.
That confusion of nomenclature remains firmly entrenched to this day. Dunhill still sells both shapes under the name "Hungarian", and to add to the confusion, still stamps the same shape number on the shank. Both of the following pipes are stamped "5226".
Both are Group 5, both have stem number 2 (saddle bit), and both bear shape number 26 ("Hungarian").
Dunhill 5226 Hungarian
Dunhill 5226 "Hungarian"
(...but it's really an Oom Paul)
Nonsense. If they're the same shape, I'll eat Kyle's hat.
Nah, found that pic on the web. Wanted one that best suited my personality :lol:Vito":qlzl0ju6 said:By the way, I love your seasonally correct avatar. Were you the chef on that one?
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