Shotgun rec's

[riff raff]

Here's my SIL's 870 Serbu. I didn't realize these things are $1500! I told him to look out for a used one...

 

[Bullwinkle]

Firing one of those very short barrel shotguns with only the pistol grip may do more damage to you than the bad guy. The noise will deafen you, the blast will blind you in the middle of the night and with no shoulder stock the recoil will probably break your wrist.

 

[riff raff]

Firing one of those very short barrel shotguns with only the pistol grip may do more damage to you than the bad guy.  The noise will deafen you, the blast will blind you in the middle of the night and with no shoulder stock the recoil will probably break your wrist.

It has less kick than you would think. Even so, I'm searching for one in 20 gauge (even 410) which should be fine for home protection. I have not fired it indoors, with no ear protection but I guess my .357 would be equally as loud?

 

[Bullwinkle]

Your 357 would be much louder and after exiting your house go into the neighbors house.

 

[riff raff]

Your 357 would be much louder and after exiting your house go into the neighbors house.

Exactly why I was thinking home defense shotgun. (although with muffs, a short barrel 12 gauge sounds pretty similar to my .357). I haven't fired either without ear protection. Guess we should...

 

[Bullwinkle]

So you are figuring to put muffs on before grabbing your shotgun in the middle of the night? Even a 12ga at in the house distances might give you a 4 to 6 inch pattern. Add a Dead Ringer ghost ring and a light.

 

[riff raff]

So you are figuring to put muffs on before grabbing your shotgun in the middle of the night? Even a 12ga at in the house distances might give you a 4 to 6 inch pattern. Add a Dead Ringer ghost ring and a light.

No, I'm only noting that WITH muffs, the 12 gauge sounds the same as my .357...

I don't think finding and putting on ear protection, with someone in the house, would be very wise.

 

[monbla256]

An aspect of this whole thing is just what you are going to do when you USE a weapon for home defense. If you decide to do this, remember, your aim is to KILL the person as dead men can't say anything against you. You need to be truly willing to KILL another person if you decide to take this action. Fifteen years ago I had to do this with a guy who came in my house and pulled a pistol on me when I confronted him in my hallway. I put two blasts from my model 12 in him blowing his left arm and shoulder off with the first round and part of his lower jaw with the second. I killed him and spent the next 5 years in and out of court concerning the incident. I finally was able t put it all to rest with his family legally but it was far more involved than I ever realized it would be. When deciding what weapon to use, consider the WHOLE PACKAGE that you will be confronted with and have to live with after . Just lowering the gun and walking away only happens in the movies.

 

[Brewdude]

An aspect of this whole thing is just what you are going to do when you USE a weapon for home defense. If you decide to do this, remember, your aim is to KILL the person as dead men can't say anything against you. You need to be truly willing to KILL another person if you decide to take this action. Fifteen years ago I had to do this with a guy who came in my house and pulled a pistol on me when I confronted him in my hallway. I put two blasts from my model 12 in him blowing his left arm and shoulder off with the first round and part of his lower jaw with the second. I killed him and spent the next 5 years in and out of court concerning the incident. I finally was able t put it all to rest with his family legally but it was far more involved than I ever realized it would be. When deciding what weapon to use, consider the WHOLE PACKAGE that you will be confronted with and have to live with after . Just lowering the gun and walking away only happens in the movies.

Don't know what to say to that Michael. You did what you had to do under the circumstances. No judgment on my part.

A cautionary tale to be sure. And hopefully none of us has to go through that. It must have been an emotional and expensive endeavor.


No Cheers,

RR

 

[monbla256]

An aspect of this whole thing is just what you are going to do when you USE a weapon for home defense. If you decide to do this, remember, your aim is to KILL the person as dead men can't say anything against you. You need to be truly willing to KILL another person if you decide to take this action. Fifteen years ago I had to do this with a guy who came in my house and pulled a pistol on me when I confronted him in my hallway. I put two blasts from my model 12 in him blowing his left arm and shoulder off with the first round and part of his lower jaw with the second. I killed him and spent the next 5 years in and out of court concerning the incident. I finally was able t put it all to rest with his family legally but it was far more involved than I ever realized it would be. When deciding what weapon to use, consider the WHOLE PACKAGE that you will be confronted with and have to live with after . Just lowering the gun and walking away only happens in the movies.

Don't know what to say to that Michael. You did what you had to do under the circumstances. No judgment on my part.

A cautionary tale to be sure. And hopefully none of us has to go through that. It must have been an emotional and expensive endeavor.


No Cheers,

RR

Thanks for your thoughts BD. There is a lot of Rambo style responsise to this subject and most focusing on "THE gun" to use but I had never heard any one talk about the WHOLE aspect of the subject and thought I'd relay my experiences. It was expensive, almost $12,00.00 in legal expenses over the 5 years. There was also the cost of fixing my house when it was all over. There's nothing neat and easy about "home defense: as it is depicted in the movies. :twisted: :twisted: