New Dunhill Elizabethan in a Charatan 20104 Belvedere Canadian.JimInks":2vh0cork said:Sutliff does. I much prefer it to the new version. This Match was based on the Murray's version. Here's my review if it will help:MisterE":2vh0cork said:Jim, who blends the Elizabethan match you have?JimInks":2vh0cork said:Dunhill Elizabethan Match in a 2003 smooth medium bent straight grain Ardor Venere Extra signed by Dorelio Rovera Dublin.
I’ve compared this to the original (which once was a regular smoke for me) and I'd say this blend is fairly close, but not an exact match. It’s certainly closer than the current DE production by Dunhill, which I consider to be inferior to both the original and the Sutliff Match. The Murray’s version was a little more complex in taste, and had just a little more bright lemon Virginia. The perique is very peppery in both, slightly more plumy here. The brown Virginia is virtually identical. As much as I liked the Murray’s product, I like this Match very much, and would say it may be as close as you can get. A little more sprinkling of lemon Va., and it’d virtually be the same. Because the new version is different from the Murray’s, which is what the Match attempted to copy, I would not consider them to be similar. The proportion of ingredients in the new version is different and the shag cut is as well.
The Murray’s version of DE was one of the very few blends m'lady openly complained about. When they quit making it, she was very happy. A couple of years back, I tried the Match for the first time. Five minutes after I started smoking it, she came back to the studio and said, "Are you smoking that crap again? I thought they quit making it." Telling me that she recognized the smell after several years just struck me kinda funny. That, besides the taste, amplified my assessment that the Match is close indeed.
You didn't change, the blend did. You're right about the Murray's version, plus this new stuff is a shag cut, whereas the old was ribbon and short broken flakes of lemon Va.MisterE":35a5u5c0 said:New Dunhill Elizabethan in a Charatan 20104 Belvedere Canadian.JimInks":35a5u5c0 said:Sutliff does. I much prefer it to the new version. This Match was based on the Murray's version. Here's my review if it will help:MisterE":35a5u5c0 said:Jim, who blends the Elizabethan match you have?JimInks":35a5u5c0 said:Dunhill Elizabethan Match in a 2003 smooth medium bent straight grain Ardor Venere Extra signed by Dorelio Rovera Dublin.
I’ve compared this to the original (which once was a regular smoke for me) and I'd say this blend is fairly close, but not an exact match. It’s certainly closer than the current DE production by Dunhill, which I consider to be inferior to both the original and the Sutliff Match. The Murray’s version was a little more complex in taste, and had just a little more bright lemon Virginia. The perique is very peppery in both, slightly more plumy here. The brown Virginia is virtually identical. As much as I liked the Murray’s product, I like this Match very much, and would say it may be as close as you can get. A little more sprinkling of lemon Va., and it’d virtually be the same. Because the new version is different from the Murray’s, which is what the Match attempted to copy, I would not consider them to be similar. The proportion of ingredients in the new version is different and the shag cut is as well.
The Murray’s version of DE was one of the very few blends m'lady openly complained about. When they quit making it, she was very happy. A couple of years back, I tried the Match for the first time. Five minutes after I started smoking it, she came back to the studio and said, "Are you smoking that crap again? I thought they quit making it." Telling me that she recognized the smell after several years just struck me kinda funny. That, besides the taste, amplified my assessment that the Match is close indeed.
Thanks Jim. I might have to give that one a try, even though I do like the Dunhill reincarnation. I seem to remember the Murray's version as fuller and the Perique much spicier. The re-release seems to be lighter in all regards. Then again it was almost seven years since I last smoked it. It could be me who has changed!
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