I have a baker's dozen of Petes. My faves are 999, 80s, 408, 150, 03. The peculiar thing about Petes is the "pass a cleaner" business. All my Pete's of the aforementioned models pass a cleaner. However, they do so intermittently. They may pass a cleaner on first try and then do so only after repeated attempts, or they may just not be in the mood at the time. But I do like my Petes a lot, partially because of the marque's long tradition. The one time I had a clear defect in a new Pete, Angela Fortune, at Sallynoggin (sp?), was wonderful. My older Petes seem to have better finishes and stamping than the newer ones. That could be an opinion that has a lot to do having more older Petes than new ones. I've even grown accustomed to the P-lip, though I still have a preference for the fishtail. Petes are real value choices, imho.