BriarBid.com

[KevinG]

I forgot to mention that we will have tobacco in the next couple of months.

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Cool. No better time of year to release such an endeavor, too, Kevin. I've signed up and will keep an eye on the goings-on, see how people interact with the site. Hopefully there won't be too many kinks to work out. It's sure to be a hit--eBay frustrates more than a few people.

8)

 

[bosun1]

An interesting site with plans to filter out some of the over-blown ebay crap. I started with ebay close to when they started, took a long break from them and the differences between then and now are annoying at least.

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Apparently I'm among PayPal's (as a separate company) first customers, since early April, 2000 . Every time I call to them they say, "Wow, no one has even worked here that long..." (...not sure if they should say things like that...) but it helps when I have some issue with eBay (which I only joined in 2005).

eBay pisses me off in many ways, yet it's still the only thing.

Until now. I hope "boutique" bid sites happen all over the place. 8)

 

[Steveaux]

OK ... OK, I registered.

I already blew my smoking budget. But, like Jack said, at least I can ogle the pipe pron.

Unemployment sux.

 

[user 2031]

5. BriarBid presents a more authentic, realistic auction environment. Auctions are run for a selected duration, but are automatically extended as long as there are active bidders, closing only when bidders are silent. No more sniping!

Please sign-up for an account too! http://www.briarbid.com/register.php

Interesting... so no reason to wait until the end of the auction to throw in a snipe. I like it, as you have said, it's more like a real auction going to the actual highest bidder.

I'll be the first to admit that I have gotten some great deals by sniping, but I think I actually prefer this type of bidding. It will be fun to see how it goes. I already have a bid in on an item, so...



EDIT: Question? Will this type of bidding promote shill bidding? What if the seller has a couple of friends that bid his item up when they see a potential bidder might be willing to pay a bit more? I only ask because I am not familiar with this type of bidding. I would hope this kind of thing would not happen, but you never know.

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Good question, Simple Man.

 

[Wet Dottle]

5. BriarBid presents a more authentic, realistic auction environment. Auctions are run for a selected duration, but are automatically extended as long as there are active bidders, closing only when bidders are silent. No more sniping!

Please sign-up for an account too! http://www.briarbid.com/register.php

Interesting... so no reason to wait until the end of the auction to throw in a snipe. I like it, as you have said, it's more like a real auction going to the actual highest bidder.

You know, eBay auctions ALWAYS go to the highest bidder.

 

[Kyle Weiss]

You know, eBay auctions ALWAYS go to the highest bidder.

But the clock also becomes a factor at ePrey. Not everyone can sit around randomly and snipe, they either are willing to pay an amount and walk away or lose out.

I'm curious to see how it'll all work.

 

[Wet Dottle]

You know, eBay auctions ALWAYS go to the highest bidder.

But the clock also becomes a factor at ePrey. Not everyone can sit around randomly and snipe, they either are willing to pay an amount and walk away or lose out.

I'm curious to see how it'll all work.

Kyle, the point is that eBay already allows you to enter the highest amount you're willing to pay for an item. If people don't do it and end up loosing an item that they might otherwise get, it's their fault, not eBay's. In other words, it's human error.

If you want to snipe, you don't need to babysit the item. There are cheap sniping engines that work very well. Note also that sniping exists because of the aforementioned human error. On the other hand, in BriarBid you'll have to follow your item more closely than you would have to on eBay.

If things work as they say, I'm willing to give it a try if I decide to sell some of my goods, but will not place bids.

 

[user 2031]

5. BriarBid presents a more authentic, realistic auction environment. Auctions are run for a selected duration, but are automatically extended as long as there are active bidders, closing only when bidders are silent. No more sniping!

Please sign-up for an account too! http://www.briarbid.com/register.php

Interesting... so no reason to wait until the end of the auction to throw in a snipe. I like it, as you have said, it's more like a real auction going to the actual highest bidder.

You know, eBay auctions ALWAYS go to the highest bidder.

Thanks. I have over 1000 ebay transactions and have 100% positive feedback as a buyer and seller and have been there from the beginning. So yea, I kind of know how ebay works. :lol:
What makes the bidding different on the two sites is this. On ebay the auctions ends at a specific time, the highest bidder at that time wins. No one can reconsider and put in another bid, when the auction is done it is done. High bid at the time wins.

This works very well for a sniper on an item that has gone unnoticed and unbid on. If you throw in a last second bid, you win. It also works good to use an automatic sniper as you said, the problem with early bidding is that it draws attention to an item. It is human nature for a person to desire something more when they see other people desire it, I don't know why that is, but it is.

On ebay, I never show my hand until the very last seconds. A lot of indecisive people who are marginally interested will try to outbid you given the chance. When you bid last second they no longer have that opportunity. I pay MUCH LESS for a LOT of items by not giving another bidder the opportunity to reconsider and go a bit higher or keep uping by a dollar until they see where my bid is.

On briarbid, there is no sniping. The auction DOES NOT end until bidding stops. A last second bid only means that that is the new high bid and other bidders can still bid until all bidding stops.

The only problem I see with this is if an item is much desired and 2 or 3 bidders are really after it, IF bidding slows and the seller thinks he can get a bit more for the item, there IS POTENTIAL for the seller to get a buddy to keep the bidding going. I'm not saying this is going to happen, I am just saying the potential is there.

I hope my explanation will clear up confusion, because while you are right that an item goes to the "highest bidder", this is a different set of rules than ebays. This is actually more like a live auction. I have bid like this online and it worked out fine. Just wanted to make myself more clear.

 

[Wet Dottle]

Thanks. I have over 1000 ebay transactions and have 100% positive feedback as a buyer and seller and have been there from the beginning. So yea, I kind of know how ebay works. :lol:

S-Man, I have no doubt you know, I was being a smart aleck. :clown:

You are right in everything you say, and that's why I'll consider using BriarBid to sell, but not to buy.

 

[user 2031]

Thanks. I have over 1000 ebay transactions and have 100% positive feedback as a buyer and seller and have been there from the beginning. So yea, I kind of know how ebay works. :lol:

S-Man, I have no doubt you know, I was being a smart aleck. :clown:

You are right in everything you say, and that's why I'll consider using BriarBid to sell, but not to buy.

:lol:

I hear ya'. Personally, I won't be afraid to bid there, I have a bid on one item already and I'm sure I'll see something else soon. With me, I don't get caught up in bidding wars, on a site like this, I'll put my highest bid that I'm willing to pay and I won't raise it from there. Once my proxy bid is outbid, I'm done.

 

[user 2031]

Made my first purchase on briarbid. Checkout is a bit confusing, I hope that gets a bit easier. The seller was great though and his communication helped greatly.

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Made my first purchase on briarbid. Checkout is a bit confusing, I hope that gets a bit easier. The seller was great though and his communication helped greatly.

It goes without saying...pictures when it arrives. :cheers:

 

[Vito]

Looks like the site has better terms than ebay if you're a seller, but not as good if you're a buyer...

Exactly. The fact that there is no fixed ending time to the auctions is a deal killer for me as a buyer. I have some great pipes that I won on eBay because I didn't have to show my hand until near the very end of the auction. People who hadn't already decided what they wanted to spend didn't get those pipes...not because I "sniped" them, but because they never decided how much they wanted to spend in the first place.

...On ebay the auctions ends at a specific time, the highest bidder at that time wins. No one can reconsider and put in another bid, when the auction is done it is done. High bid at the time wins.

This works very well for a sniper on an item that has gone unnoticed and unbid on. If you throw in a last second bid, you win...the problem with early bidding is that it draws attention to an item. It is human nature for a person to desire something more when they see other people desire it, I don't know why that is, but it is.

On ebay, I never show my hand until the very last seconds. A lot of indecisive people who are marginally interested will try to outbid you given the chance. When you bid last second they no longer have that opportunity. I pay MUCH LESS for a LOT of items by not giving another bidder the opportunity to reconsider and go a bit higher or keep uping by a dollar until they see where my bid is.

Yup...it's all true. There are people who just nibble away at the bidding, pushing it up and up and up just to see where it goes. I suspect that many of them are newbies who don't even know what they want to spend, but when the automatic bidding feature immediately counters their incremental bid, they come back and bid again...and again, and again, jacking up the price.

That obviously works in the sellers' favor, and more power to them, I guess. But I never bid on an item unless I already know what is the maximum I'm willing to spend. If I win, fine. If someone else wants it more and is willing to pay more...well, that's fine too. If I've been honest with myself about my maximum bid, I'll have no regrets if someone else wins the auction. But I don't want to encourage people who don't know what they want to spend to jack up the price.

For me it comes down to this: I have no problem bidding in an auction with people who are looking for an item because they really want it and know how much they're willing to spend on it. But I don't want to bid in auctions against people who don't know their own minds...people who bid and bid and bid, not because they genuinely want the item, but because they don't want to lose the auction once they get bidding fever...if you understand the distinction.

If you don't, then you prolly shouldn't read this post. :mrgreen:

 

[user 2031]

Made my first purchase on briarbid. Checkout is a bit confusing, I hope that gets a bit easier. The seller was great though and his communication helped greatly.

OK, needed to update this, checkout is not that confusing. You just have to be patient and wait for the seller to send you an invoice. THEN, on your items won page there will be a link to pay with paypal. It's really easy enough that a monkey could do it, PROVIDED the monkey has more patience than me. :lol:

Kyle, I will post pics, but this is not my usual PAD... so we'll see if I get kudos or not. :lol:

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Educated speculation is still speculation. I'll see how the process goes, and whether or not the other naked apes play ball in a manner consistent to what I like with bidding/buying. I suspect BriarBid staff will be watching the site unfold and progress quite closely, too. One thing is clear: a timer option for auctions might be a good idea for the seller to have (if the powers-that-be are still following along to our drivel :lol: ).

8)

 

[KevinG]

I wanted to let you guys know two things about BriarBid.com.

1. Everyone is now on "Account", meaning you don't have to go to Pay Pal and pay every time you make a listing. You have $25 of credit before having to settle up for listings.

2. For the entire month of November we are offering free listings on BriarBid.com.

All fees are waived except for Featured, Bold and End of Auction fees.

 

[nismo270r]

Just signed up...can't wait to see this site take off!