Pistols.

[kilted1]

Well, the one that fits the shoe ...

Once again, what is a topic about guns doing on a pipesmoking forum.

That's it, I'm going to find a gun forum and talk about pipes dammit :cheers:

ITS CLEARLY ANARCHY :lol!:

Who is coming with me :?:

 

[puros_bran]

If you crackerheads havent noticed... Claessen hasnt posted in thread for awhile, I think we can quit beating him over the head and talk guns again.

 

[kilted1]

Fire away :cheers:

 

[Anonymous]

If you crackerheads havent noticed... Claessen hasnt posted in thread for awhile, I think we can quit beating him over the head and talk guns again.

Maybe he was held up by a gun-toting American...

 

[Mikem]

To go along with the pistol preference question. What caliber do you prefer in your semi-automatic and/or revolver and why?

Semi-automatic: Prefer the 40 due to bullet weights and speeds. IMHO the 9mm is to fast and I don't like the lighter weight bullets it shoots. I here people complain over the 45acp due to the so called kick, yet I find that the recoil of the 9mm is much sharper and uncomfortable. I like the 40 due to it's speed, yet it can handle the heavier weight bullets. The newer magazines on the Springfield XD's will handle 13 to 16 rounds depending on the model you have. 45acp is also a nice round, slower than the 40 but handles 230 grain bullets with no problems. Most auto's though will only handle in the vicinity of 10 rounds.

Revolver: Hands down favorite is the 45 long Colt. The newer double action revolvers like the new Ruger Redhawk or Smith and Wesson Model 25 in 45 long Colt. They can handle some pretty stout loads, up and including almost 44 magnum type loads. I have been a fan of this caliber due to the fact of all the 45 long Colt single actions that I own. Has a heck of a knock down power without as much recoil as a 44 magnum or 454 casull.

 

[kilted1]

I've fired and can handle a .45 APC though not for hours. I can handle 50 rounds before I'm too stressed to shoot.

My preferred round still is .357 Mag, good knockdown power, and not as fatiguing for me as the .45. I cannot handle .44 mag at all, my grouping has never been very good with it, and with carpel tunnel syndrome ... well you get the idea.

I would definitely like to try the long Colt .45 some day.

 

[thedeep]

My favorite autos: understand, I only see two calibers 9mike and .45acp. They are available worldwide, chambered for almost every gun made, and chambered for most sub-guns. Ammo for pistols and subs are interchangeable. If you buy European ammo it's usually hotter than standard American fodder--it's designed for the subs. That said:
1. I have carried a Browning HP for over 40 years. My current "full" carry gun is an FM "Detective," which is a short-barreled HP. I use to knock hell out of the Argentine gun industry, when I was doing retail, but man, they have come a long way. This gun shoots as well as my high-dollar HP's (Practicals). For carry I load up with Geco BAT's. They will dispense with anything I am apt to meet.
2. The venerable Colt, but for me, in the "Officer's" model. I have two, a standard and a lightweight, both fully tricked out. I load up with hydra-shoks. They are as accurate as anything Colt has ever made and the lightweight is a comfortable all-day carry.
3. Gets a little sticky, here. I am beginning, what appears to be, a long-term relationship with a Kahr PM9. It's very small, easy to conceal, full time double-action, so no safety to worry about. I am right at the break-in on rounds fired--300. I'll knock it down and clean things up, then. My most accurate auto is my old Sig P210-6. These guns are amazing. They shoot groups at 50 yds that other autos wish they could shoot at 25. Smoothest trigger ever, out of the box. There are some drawbacks--rear sights are a bit flimsy. They are a little fussy about what they will eat. But, man, look out if you are downrange. They drive tacks.
Wheel-guns
1. The sheer power of it--the .454 Casull. If you are going somewhere that has dangerouse beasts (not men), this is the gun. In a Freedom Arms, you also have superb accuracy. Haven't shot any other .454.
2. Gotta have a .38 in a shortie, take your pick: J-frames-Model 60 S&W, Model 36, Model 12, or a....S&W; Colt Cobra, Diamondback, etc, or........... My current is an old Bodyguard (49) that I've had for 25 years or so--it's my bedside gun. The wife can handle it as well.
3. My favorite carry wheelie? I have a great little Bulldog Pug, by Charter, in .44 special. Mine has been converted to double-action. It is a small package with a big bite. IMHO a huge step up from a .38.

 

[puros_bran]

Favorite Auto Caliber: 45 acp. I agree with Mike on this one, after a couple box's the 9mm just tires me out... I can shoot the 45 all day. I have spent many an hour trying to comprehend it... this is what I've came up with. The 9mm has a 'lighter' kick, but its much faster... The 45 kicks 'harder' but its slower... The shooter has more 'time' (measured in micro seconds) to absorb the blow. I imagine the felt recoil in either caliber has much to due with grip design, weight, and spring tensions... but I hate playing with something when I can pick up a 1911 or variant and be happy with nothing more than an ambi safety and maybe a polish job...


My favorite revolver cartridge: Thats easy, 45 acp. No replacement for displacement.
:lol: Like I said earlier a 45 wheel with fullmoons is incredibly fast. For 'conventional' wheel calibers, I'll take a .357 , the versatility from low n slow 38's to +p 357 Mag ammo is great. good for everything from plinking, to rodents to deer...

Considering the .45 and .357 mag have historic stopping power either would be good choices for those 2 legged bears.

 

[Anonymous]

I still like my 10s the best, followed by .40. For some reason, I shot these when everyone else was into .45s. I have a .45 1911 that I like and carry plenty. For me, it's like choosing accessories. I have holsters for all of my guns. remember I'm licensed.

 

[Bulldawg]

Buncha weirdo gun nuts around here.

Sounds like my kinda place!

I like the finer classic 1911s, Hi-Powers, and S&Ws as much as the next guy. That said, I'm usually carrying one of the following:

Glock 19 in Alessi CQC/S or homebuilt leather:

Ruger GP100 (3" bbl) in homebuilt leather:

S&W 642 in a Galco horsehide pocket holster:

 

[Anonymous]

Semi-automatic: Prefer the 40 due to bullet weights and speeds. IMHO the 9mm is to fast and I don't like the lighter weight bullets it shoots. I here people complain over the 45acp due to the so called kick, yet I find that the recoil of the 9mm is much sharper and uncomfortable. I like the 40 due to it's speed, yet it can handle the heavier weight bullets. The newer magazines on the Springfield XD's will handle 13 to 16 rounds depending on the model you have. 45acp is also a nice round, slower than the 40 but handles 230 grain bullets with no problems. Most auto's though will only handle in the vicinity of 10 rounds.

I think some folks get worn out by the 9mm because the gun itself typically is lighter weight which allows more force to be transferered to the shooter, whereas the heavier weapons take more of the punishment. I have two prime examples, the first is a Kel-Tec PF9 which is basically a plastic frame, small, compact 9mm; that thing will punish you. After several mags your ready to hang it up. I also have a Ruger P-89 which is a heavier all metal weapon (alum frame) you can shoot all day with minimal fatigue. Now the .45's are typically all steel frames (the older ones I've shot anyway), which can take more of the beating, not your wrist. The main thing to remember is the purpose of the weapon, I carry the PF9 for close range self defense, it needs to be highly concealable with enough punch to keep someone down till I can get the hell out of the situation. Where the P-89 is more of a plinking, home defense weapon. I prefer the 9mm round because it's redily available and not that expensive. If I had unlimited resources I would like to have a .45 Kimber.

 

[Idlefellow]

My one and only handgun (if you don't count a Daisy CO2 pistol): Colt Woodsman Sport, c. 1937.

 

[HoosierPuffer]

The issue with violence is one of the heart. It has nothing to do with an inanimate object. If the intent and heart of the person is sufficiently evil enough to want to kill someone, they will use an inanimate object to facilitate that intent. The first murder occurred with a rock.

Freedom is only possible for a good and moral people. People that do not have an internal compass of right and wrong are enslaved to their ways of life, and will inevitably sow the seeds of destruction round about themselves.

 

[Mikem]

Semi-automatic: Prefer the 40 due to bullet weights and speeds. IMHO the 9mm is to fast and I don't like the lighter weight bullets it shoots. I here people complain over the 45acp due to the so called kick, yet I find that the recoil of the 9mm is much sharper and uncomfortable. I like the 40 due to it's speed, yet it can handle the heavier weight bullets. The newer magazines on the Springfield XD's will handle 13 to 16 rounds depending on the model you have. 45acp is also a nice round, slower than the 40 but handles 230 grain bullets with no problems. Most auto's though will only handle in the vicinity of 10 rounds.

I think some folks get worn out by the 9mm because the gun itself typically is lighter weight which allows more force to be transferred to the shooter, whereas the heavier weapons take more of the punishment. I have two prime examples, the first is a Kel-Tec PF9 which is basically a plastic frame, small, compact 9mm; that thing will punish you. After several mags your ready to hang it up. I also have a Ruger P-89 which is a heavier all metal weapon (alum frame) you can shoot all day with minimal fatigue. Now the .45's are typically all steel frames (the older ones I've shot anyway), which can take more of the beating, not your wrist. The main thing to remember is the purpose of the weapon, I carry the PF9 for close range self defense, it needs to be highly concealable with enough punch to keep someone down till I can get the hell out of the situation. Where the P-89 is more of a plinking, home defense weapon. I prefer the 9mm round because it's readily available and not that expensive. If I had unlimited resources I would like to have a .45 Kimber.

It's funny that you mention the P89 as that is one of the 9mm that I use to own and really didn't enjoy shooting. Don't get me wrong as I own several Ruger's in both semi-auto, double action and single action revolvers. Two of the semi-autos are in 45acp and the third is in 40. The recoil was just too sharp (as noted in PB's post) to my liking with the P89. The thing I do like about the Ruger "P" series of semi-autos is that they are a heavier gun and easier to control IMHO and very very reliable, plus if you do ever run out of ammo you can use the thing as a club. :lol!: I was always surprised that the military did not choose them over the Beretta way back when they decided to get rid of the 1911 as the general duty sidearm. A mistake I think the rank and file soldier regrets to this day (9mm versus 45acp). I also own a Kahr CW9 concealed 9mm that I very seldom carry and find myself either carrying my Springfield XD40 concealed or my Taurus PT145 PRO. I just purchased a Taurus M85 38S +P revolver with a two inch barrel that I'm starting to enjoy shooting and carrying.

 

[Anonymous]

It's funny that you mention the P89 as that is one of the 9mm that I use to own and really didn't enjoy shooting. Don't get me wrong as I own several Ruger's in both semi-auto, double action and single action revolvers. Two of the semi-autos are in 45acp and the third is in 40. The recoil was just too sharp (as noted in PB's post) to my liking with the P89. The thing I do like about the Ruger "P" series of semi-autos is that they are a heavier gun and easier to control IMHO and very very reliable, plus if you do ever run out of ammo you can use the thing as a club. :lol!: I was always surprised that the military did not choose them over the Beretta way back when they decided to get rid of the 1911 as the general duty sidearm. A mistake I think the rank and file soldier regrets to this day (9mm versus 45acp).

I guess it really depends on what your used too. Mayby alot to do with it is grip size in relation to hand size as well. A couple years ago I picked up a cheap Hi-Point 9mm. This thing is ugly. it's got a plastic frame with a heavy steel slide, feels top heavy. But damn this thing is fun to shoot, very comfortable grip that fits me perfect. I just don't trust it enough for self defense. The standard mag. works fine but the extended one doesent have the spring strength to feed all the rounds.

 

[Anonymous]

I have one of those j frame s & ws. Two actually, one in stainless one in titatium, both feather weights and hammerless. I think they are the 442 and the 642. I use them as pocket guns.

I used to carry a hammered revolver for a pocket gun. But I had an incident when someone was able to sneak up on me and the hammer hung on the top part of my britches. Luckily, I had my knives on me. That same day I traded it in for a hammerless snubbie and put a laser sight on it.

Then I found another one in a black finish (the titanium) for a price I couldn't refuse. Now, I have one for each pocket.