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[eklektos44]

Here ya go. Nice Savinelli billiard new w/free shipping from a reputable seller. $81.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAVINELLI-PIPE-ROMA-129-NEW-/221796327226?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a4175f3a

Thanks I'll look through 4 noggins. That's ones not my style but I could pay that price for a good pipe. Now hears my question...do you really think a new savinelli is better than a 60s grabow? Keep in mind that grabow used the same briar as dunhill back then according to an ex worker. What's your opinion just a question

Well, you can find pipes for $39,$49,$59 on P&C. But I have no idea about the manufacturers at all. Savinelli, Chacom, Comoy's, ect. have been around for years. They make decent pipes. They also make pipes in a range of costs. Comoy's makes a pipe called the "Tradition" which come in standard shapes, no frills. About the same price range as the Savinelli. Kaywoodie, ect were good pipes back in the day. And there are many people who collect them. But the better ones aren't all that inexpensive, or easy to find. It's a matter of taste really. I don't like stingers, or screw in stems. So they don't appeal to me. But other people don't mind them, or find ways to work around them. So there's no right answer. But I personally don't subscribe to the "old pipes are better pipes" theory. They made good pipes then, they make good pipes now. It's all what you prefer.

 

[monbla256]

"But I personally don't subscribe to the "old pipes are better pipes" theory. They made good pipes then, they make good pipes now. It's all what you prefer. "

I think this really sums it all up. I have "old" Sav's and "new" ones and they ALL smoke well, are made well, and were reasonable for what quality level they are. I bought ALL of them new and with age, as do most quality briars do, they smoke better! I only use Savinelli as an example as they have been brought up in this thread and have experience with them. But as you have said it's ALL a RACKET and ALWAY'S has been :twisted: :twisted: Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya chances as it ALWAYS HAS BEEN :twisted: :twisted:

 

[Bugsahearn]

when an old stem is oxidized and u use brebia polish on it will the polish cover up the oxidation taste or is this method not enough?

 

[eklektos44]

when an old stem is oxidized and u use brebia polish on it will the polish cover up the oxidation taste or is this method not enough?

I haven't used Brebbia polish, but I have used Soft Scrub. The trick is to rinse the stem really well and then dry it.

 

[Bugsahearn]

when an old stem is oxidized and u use brebia polish on it will the polish cover up the oxidation taste or is this method not enough?

I haven't used Brebbia polish, but I have used Soft Scrub. The trick is to rinse the stem really well and then dry it.

hey thanks i'll try that out. I spent last night looking all for the web for the standard looking pipe I've been looking for...it's actually ridiculous how few pipes fit this criteria.

I think i am going to try a savinelli monbla....this one is pretty close to what I mean...althought I'm looking for a darker stain (walnut?) https://smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/savinelli/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=163351

 

[Bugsahearn]

I do like the Punto you posted thanks. Is it really only 5 inches? I like that I'm not very fond of a long stem any longer than 5.75 and I feel like it looks funny

 

[eklektos44]

when an old stem is oxidized and u use brebia polish on it will the polish cover up the oxidation taste or is this method not enough?

I haven't used Brebbia polish, but I have used Soft Scrub. The trick is to rinse the stem really well and then dry it.

hey thanks i'll try that out. I spent last night looking all for the web for the standard looking pipe I've been looking for...it's actually ridiculous how few pipes fit this criteria.

I think i am going to try a savinelli monbla....this one is pretty close to what I mean...althought I'm looking for a darker stain (walnut?) https://smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/savinelli/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=163351

Make sure you use the Lemon Soft Scrub if you're going to use it.

 

[Bugsahearn]

Here's a good example of what I consider a perfect pipe. If this was unsmoked I would buy it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361287236351?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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[Richard Burley]

That's a good one, but a collector's piece, hence the seemingly high price. Referring back to your original post, I thought I knew exactly what you were talking about, so I googled some images of pipe smokers in movies, especially the images with high resolution. I now don't think the pipes you see in those old movies are all that plain or simple. They do tend toward classic shapes, but there's a lot of variance there. They may look plain from a distance, but closer examination often shows good pedigree, even non-classic shapes. For example, here's one of the "plainest" I could find. The actor is Jean Gabin playing Maigret, and the pipe is obviously a Comoy. Frankly, if I were really jonesing for a classic straight billiard, I would have Jesse Jones make me one to my specifications and forget any further hand-wringing and to-and-fro. Hey, you said you'd go for $225 if the above were unsmoked.

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[Dutch]

Here's a good example of what I consider a perfect pipe. If this was unsmoked I would buy it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361287236351?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Bugs, you wouldn't want the pipe from that seller, even if it was unsmoked. There are ethical sellers on ebay, you just have to know who is who.

 

[Bugsahearn]

Rich perhaps pipes are not as standard as they appear from far away in the movies. But I watch alot of 30's movies and many seem pretty standard. EGR for instance I've seen smoking some pretty nice standard looking pipes...but I've also seen him with saddle bits, or pipes with the long metal band in the middle. It seems in alot of period pieces they make now that depict pipe smoking they use a very standard looking pipe for instance in that movie stonehearst asylum Ben Kingsley smokes a pretty plain looking billiard/dublin with a large bowl. Also if you've seen that show Peaky Blinders there is a copper who smokes he's also got a similar pipe. The main thing i've noticed is the pipes are ALWAYS dark/walnut stained and I really like that. I spent hours on ebay and the pipe sites .. pretty much nowhere at all could find a new or old unsmoked pipe that matched what i'm looking for (like the peterson dublin). I'm wondering why is it so hard to come by a pipe like this?

Dutch, thanks for tip...what is it that makes "secondhandsmokers" no good?

PS does peterson make a modern day version of a pipe like that? Or does anyone know a keyword i can use when searching for a similar model. that one is called the dublin x 951 i think. I love how it's simple and has no distracting markings or logo. I'm partly irish so maybe that makes me partial to that model but I'd love to own a pipe like that..doesnt have to be a collectors item though.

 

[puros_bran]

If it didn't have 'distracting marking and logo' how would you know what it is?

 

[Bugsahearn]

If it didn't have 'distracting marking and logo' how would you know what it is?  

I don't mind brand stamping in the briar so much as I dislike the crowns, savinelli in white on the stem. Just a preference thing...I like the blue spades on walnut stained grabows. I'm sure everyone is different.

 

[monbla256]

As I've mentioned before try Savinelli  as their 128 model of Billiard is as "standard" as you can get. Here's an example of one in the Aurelia series at $80.00 brand new and it does use the 6mm balsa filters if you want but I have several Savs that do and I don't use 'em and they smoke just fine!! If the small brass band is not to your liking I don't know what to say but a BRAND NEW quality briar pipe from one of the BEST production makers ( and oldest around still today) at LESS than $100.00 Is not bad ! And if you dislike the Sav logo on the stem, then forget I mentioned this or any other Sav as you need to stick with your beloved KW's and Dr. Gs and be done with it ! :twisted:

http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/savinelli/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=168280

 

[Bugsahearn]

As I've mentioned before try Savinelli  as their 128 model of Billiard is as "standard" as you can get. Here's an example of one in the Aurelia series at $80.00 brand new and it does use the 6mm balsa filters if you want but I have several Savs that do and I don't use 'em and they smoke just fine!! If the small brass band is not to your liking I don't know what to say but a BRAND NEW quality briar pipe from one of the BEST production makers ( and oldest around still today) at LESS than $100.00 Is not bad ! And if you dislike the Sav logo on the stem, then forget I mentioned this or any other Sav as you need to stick with your beloved KW's and Dr. Gs and be done with it !  :twisted:

http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/savinelli/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=168280

I like the savinelli one that one is real nice too

 

[Bugsahearn]

Thanks bla mon I'll put that one on my list. I'm trying to find my perfect pipe...dark stained no band sva logo I could deal with. Hey mon do y have any savinelli seconds?

 

[monbla256]

Thanks bla mon I'll put that one on my list. I'm trying to find my perfect pipe...dark stained no band sva logo I could deal with. Hey mon do y have any savinelli seconds?

Not that I'm aware of. They made many of the "basket" pipes stamped Made in Italy years ago and you could tell by the model numbers on them, same as the firsts by style. They also made many "in house" branded pipes for B&Ms back in the 70's/80's as well. If you want to pay OTC pipe prices for new pipes I'm afraid THAT'S what you'll have to stay with as most other new pipe prices from most others will be higher ! As far as the Sav logo, the white does wear off with time and I've NEVER found that IT effected the smoking of the pipe JMHO  :twisted: :twisted: Take a look at this one as you get a whole lott for your $s with it !! :twisted: :twisted:

http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/savinelli/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=163350

 

[Dutch]

Dutch, thanks for tip...what is it that makes "secondhandsmokers" no good?

Bugs, he simply doesn't provide full disclosure on all of his estate pipes. If the pipe has had obvious issues like a broken shank, or has been topped, he will withhold that information unless you specifically ask. Once you have the pipe in hand, if you have a keen eye, spot the issue and ask for a refund, he will refund your money. However, you are out the shipping costs to return the item. This is how he is able to maintain his 100% feedback rating.

Once he receives the pipe back, he will promptly list it again, hoping to sell it to an unsuspecting greenhorn, who doesn't have the experience to spot the flaw.

Obviously, every pipe he sells doesn't have issues, but the ones that do, he has no problem listing them.

I don't care to do business with people who play games, and require wasting my valuable time, in order to get resolution on an issue that should have been disclosed in the original listing, as a matter of ethical business practices.

 

[Bugsahearn]

Dutch, thanks for tip...what is it that makes "secondhandsmokers" no good?

Bugs, he simply doesn't provide full disclosure on all of his estate pipes. If the pipe has had obvious issues like a broken shank, or has been topped, he will withhold that information unless you specifically ask. Once you have the pipe in hand, if you have a keen eye, spot the issue and ask for a refund, he will refund your money. However, you are out the shipping costs to return the item. This is how he is able to maintain his 100% feedback rating.

Once he receives the pipe back, he will promptly list it again, hoping to sell it to an unsuspecting greenhorn, who doesn't have the experience to spot the flaw.

Obviously, every pipe he sells doesn't have issues, but the ones that do, he has no problem listing them.

I don't care to do business with people who play games, and require wasting my valuable time, in order to get resolution on an issue that should have been disclosed in the original listing, as a matter of ethical business practices.

Thanks Dutch! It's important to spread about the word about bad ebay sellers I appreciate that

 

[Bugsahearn]

I wonder if it's so hard to find the simple pipe I'm looking for because I some point the standard plain looking quintessential pipe fell out favor as "too ordinary" and now pipe makers all make their pipes try to stand out with nuances or unique attributes. It really is ridiculous though if you look through the major pipe sites literally nothing except the dunhills fit my description. I feel like the companies are so out of touch with what consumers want..or maybe I am unique in my desire for simplicity?