The drag now is that the famous Dagner Custom Cob's stem is drilled wider, so the Forever Stems no longer fit! This really tics me off! I have 9 or 10 Dagner cobs with Forever stems and love them. Last summer I bought 4 more and found out that the Forever Stems I'd purchased for them no longer fit. Have to use them on the C&D Carolina cobs, now or, of course, the traditional MM ones. This, for me, is a shame because a well used Dagner cob can give an hour's smoke and a Forever Stem really adds to the look and comfort of the smoking experience.