7th Annual Spring Forward Box Pass.

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I've had several pm's about guys willing to replace the 'missing' tins..

Gents thats mighty high and fine of you.. It really shows your character.... BUT.. If they are indeed missing it isn't right to make you guys pay for it. If someone took them by mistake now would be a real good time to fess up though..
 
SAMPLE NOTES #1

Here is the first installment of quick notes on my impressions of 1-2 bowl samples from the box; all samples were smoked in MM cobs as my briars are all ensconced in their various dedications at the moment (being a bit demure, they do not normally go for one-night-stands; well, most of them at least):

Boswell Pipes & Tobacco Dan’s Blend: A pleasant, although somewhat uninspired, bright Virginia blend in a near shag cut with a slightly sweet and bitey quality reminding of some of the Virginia-based offerings of a well-known Danish outfit with a Scottish name. At times, it also reminded me a bit of Dan’s Hamborger Veermaster.

Cornell & Diehl Habana Day Dream (#420): Among the many things which bother me about the premium cigar industry’s U.S. sales style is the constant reference to ‘Havana’, ‘Habana’, ‘Habano’, ‘Cuba’, ‘Cubito’, and evocative and sometimes meaningless variations thereof in relation to cigars of Dominican, Honduran, Nicaraguan, and others of non-Cuban origin. In my opinion ‘Habana Day Dream’ is a silly name for a cigar-leaf blend containing (maduro) broadleaf from Pennsylvania; why not make the fact explicit in the first place? I think American growers produce a excellent cigar leaf as well as keep alive a segment of agriculture which, while economically less-and-less consequential, has tremendous historical and cultural significance. If I were to name this blend, I would call it ‘Lancaster Day Dream’, and perhaps place a picture of a Amish farmer on the tin label, relaxing against a bale of straw with a corn cob pipe clenched in his bearded jaw (wait, are the Amish allowed to smoke?). In any case, this is a good blend with much more in the way of complexity than, say, the same blender’s Billy Budd. The Latakia here is far in the background, and the Virginias and black Cavendish add a nice sweetness. The Perique serves a true condimental role, a garnish without which the blend might fall just a bit flat. Recommended, despite the name.

Greenfield and Winther White Burley: Dark and a bit nutty, with a soft mouthfeel and an earthy and pleasantly sour-spicy finish. Always nice to be able to try something of this vintage; a lovely aged burley.

John Patton Quadruple Virginia: This is essentially “Cool Hand Fluke” sans its massive amount of Perique; a nice Virginia blend which showcases the expected range of typical Virginia flavors; medium bodied with citrus and black cherry notes and a slightly tangy finish. Might purchase if a good deal was to be had, although would not necessarily seek it out given the competition.

John Patton Smoked Burley: A blend of six burleys and Latakia, this “American English” reminds of similar offerings by C&D. While the Latakia remains clearly present throughout the bowl, a nice mixture of tell-tale Burley flavors assert themselves at every step. While smoking this blend, however, I kept wondering how it would taste if the Latakia were exchanged with some nice Red Virginia and perhaps a bit of Perique, either a sign of boredom or yet another indication of my sometimes lukewarm response to the use of Cyprian Latakia outside the ambit of the traditional English/Balkan mixture.

Orlik Dark Strong Kentucky: Yes this stuff is strong, yet a bit light in body overall. Expected more depth of flavor then was present, even in spite of the slight casing. Would smoke again if offered, but would not go out of my way to purchase.

More notes to follow...
 
Nice! Your rant/review of Habana Daydream may be one of the funniest things I have read in a while...probably due in part to the fact that I used to sort of know an amish tobacco farmer. :lol:

:cheers:
 
SAMPLE NOTES #2

Boswell Pipes & Tobacco Premium Burley: Well, if this is the premium version, I for one would certainly avoid the economy offering; it is bitter and the topping – while light – reminds me too much of Carter Hall, which I really do not like all that much in the first place. I could only stomach about half a bowl of this blend. Of course, your mileage may vary. If this were the only Burley blend available to me, I would stop smoking such blends altogether.

Cornell & Diehl Barrister (#102): Burley with a bit of Virginia and Latakia mixed in for good measure; the Burley predominates, and is quite satisfying. This blend confirms for me yet again that C&D is to Burley blends what McClelland is to Virginia blends and G.L. Pease is to English/Balkan blends. A nice change of pace from the masterful OJK and Haunted Bookshop.

Hearth & Home Marble Kake: The particle board of the pipe tobacco world; reminds me that I really should get back to reframing that back wall in the garage before it just plain falls down. In all seriousness, I really do like this VA crumble cake and have put a pound down on next month’s ‘to order’ list.

John Patton Storm Front: A nice cube cut Burley blend with added cigar leaf; rich, full-bodied, and spicy, with a somewhat creamy mouthfeel. Contains a fair amount of vitamin N as well. This is a very honest blend, which offers exactly what you would expect given its components. Would not hesitate to purchase some for future enjoyment.
 
Frost":xfo030hg said:
Nice! Your rant/review of Habana Daydream may be one of the funniest things I have read in a while...probably due in part to the fact that I used to sort of know an amish tobacco farmer. :lol:

:cheers:
Did he smoke / chew it, or just grow it? I've thought about it, and cannot recall ever seeing an Amish / Mennonite, etc. man smoking (although my experience with the Amish is limited to only occasional encounters in Indiana and a number of past visits to Pennsylvania; just 'out and about' with no sustained interaction). My assumption is that just as alcohol is considered a no-no due to religious scruples so too is using tobacco?
 
I don't know if he actually consumed any of it...I just know that he farmed it and that his family made really really good doughnuts.

The amish religion is a bit vague to me, although I do know that there are alot of rule variations between different individuals, sects and denominations and whatnot
 
Frost":9zpdo26n said:
I don't know if he actually consumed any of it...I just know that he farmed it and that his family made really really good doughnuts.

The amish religion is a bit vague to me, although I do know that there are alot of rule variations between different individuals, sects and denominations and whatnot
Just did some quick internet searching, and found much the same: a great deal of diversity pertaining to various communities, sectarian splits (New Order vs. Traditional, etc., etc.), and individual practice. Some allow smoking, drinking, and what not (in certain contexts for certain individuals), some debate it, some prohibit it, etc. This kind of diversity makes sense given the geographic spread and relative historical isolation of the various communities; so - next time I find myself in Amish country I will be on a closer lookout.
 
Some communities of Amish forbid it from what I have read - some certainly smoke according to this quote:

As John Hostetler points out in Amish Society, in some communities, quitting smoking may be taken as identifying with more liberal Mennonite groups.
 
Mennonites smoke in southern ga. I have seen them, do it. Snuff too.
Ed
 
SAMPLE NOTES #3

I simply cannot smoke any more samples today ... so will try to get to the rest of what I took for sampling later in the week. Until then ...

Dan Hamborger Veermaster (ca. 2009): While this Euro thin-sliced flake has its fans, after smoking two bowls of the sample I remember why I am not one of them. Clearly a quality preparation, but it is just too clean, too straight, and too mild for my tastes. Idiosyncratic? Perhaps. But one of the great things about our hobby is that idiosyncrasy is more often the norm rather than the exception.

Escudo Navy de Luxe (STG-Stokkebye; 2009): What is there to say, save: “note to self: don’t forget to add a few tins to next tobacco order.”

Hearth & Home Anniversary Kake: A VaPer which simply did not do it for me; hints of some funkiness which just should not be there given the blender’s description of the cake and the notes on TR. Perhaps there was some cross-contamination from an aromatic squished nearby in the box? Not at all what I expected it would be; perhaps will order a 2oz. sample with a future order from P&C to double-check.

Peter Stokkebye Luxury Bullseye Flake: Nice (not great), but quite nice. Guess that is why I have a few pounds stashed away in the cellar. Good to be reminded why. This spun cut flake is visually attractive and is a super value, especially considering the much higher price of the near look-alikes produced in the same factory: Dunhill De Luxe Navy Rolls and Davidoff Flake Medallions.

Samuel Gawith Best Brown Flake (ca. 2009): Despite a penchant, and a purchasing loyalty, for flue-cured leaf grown in the western hemisphere I do really enjoy African Virginias, especially when they are as well done as those of Samuel Gawith. Not having any in the cellar, nor in fact not having smoked but a single bowl of the stuff for well over a year’s time, it was lovely to have the chance to savor a few flakes of SG’s Best Brown; cool, sweet, mild, with less body and depth of flavor than FVF, but still quite nice. For some reason I have always found that the SG flakes just sing in a well-seasoned cob.
 
I have been off line mostly this weekend. I just saw the mystery of the missing tins. Last I read Puff Daddy said that sealed tins of Caravan, Squadron Leader, Kingfisher, Blackpoint, Liberty Flake had gone missing. I took an inventory of the box when I had it - just before Kap - and none of those are on the list so I don't think they made it this far. I know that the Squadron Leader didn't. I would have traded for it. Been wanting to try it. I did sample from unsealed tins of Sweet Killarney and Savinelli Black Cavendish. At least I thought they were unsealed. They came open pretty effortlessly and didn't seem to be full. Sorry if those were there for trade and not sampling
 
clueless":x1a111wc said:
I have been off line mostly this weekend. I just saw the mystery of the missing tins. Last I read Puff Daddy said that sealed tins of Caravan, Squadron Leader, Kingfisher, Blackpoint, Liberty Flake had gone missing. I took an inventory of the box when I had it - just before Kap - and none of those are on the list so I don't think they made it this far. I know that the Squadron Leader didn't. I would have traded for it. Been wanting to try it. I did sample from unsealed tins of Sweet Killarney and Savinelli Black Cavendish. At least I thought they were unsealed. They came open pretty effortlessly and didn't seem to be full. Sorry if those were there for trade and not sampling
They were sealed and full when I put them in.
Missing tins and and unlisted takes of samples WTF?
I hope Sherlock can track down the culprit :x
 
clueless":kpxd8qet said:
I have been off line mostly this weekend. I just saw the mystery of the missing tins. Last I read Puff Daddy said that sealed tins of Caravan, Squadron Leader, Kingfisher, Blackpoint, Liberty Flake had gone missing. I took an inventory of the box when I had it - just before Kap - and none of those are on the list so I don't think they made it this far. I know that the Squadron Leader didn't. I would have traded for it. Been wanting to try it. I did sample from unsealed tins of Sweet Killarney and Savinelli Black Cavendish. At least I thought they were unsealed. They came open pretty effortlessly and didn't seem to be full. Sorry if those were there for trade and not sampling
I belive I put the Liberty Flake in there, but I could have been mistaken and it was Patriot Flake, either way it WAS a sealed tin when I put it in the box.

The others listed above were NOT and I repeat Not in the box when I had posession of it.
 
Nice pass Kap! I don't think any of those missing tins were in there when I had the box so it looks like they've been missing for bit.
 
The box has been passed, sent USPS priority with delivery confirmation this afternoon (Monday, 6/14). The interested parties have been apprised. Next up: Carlos; enjoy!
 
There was a tin of Patriot flake when I had the box a bit of rust on it I think. Plus someone made mention of smoking some after I had the box so it couldn't have been that long ago dont know if it was sealed when it was here.
 
nate560":bwe9bnpb said:
There was a tin of Patriot flake when I had the box a bit of rust on it I think. Plus someone made mention of smoking some after I had the box so it couldn't have been that long ago dont know if it was sealed when it was here.
Yep, it was there - no. 11 on the list (~45g. CAO/Dan Patriot Flake); certainly not sealed when I logged it.
 
SAMPLE NOTES #4

Getting closer...

McClelland 2015 Va/Per Flake: My assumption is that I have correctly identified this, although it does appears a bit different than the jar of 2015 in my cellar so I am not entirely sure (although the sample was quite dry, which may have resulted in some breakage with color differences being explained by age). Although a good amount of time has passed since I have enjoyed this particular McClelland bulk, the two bowls from the sample which I smoked (after due rehydration) were nice, with the pleasant sweet tanginess of the Virginia(s) being nicely complemented with a peppery Perique note which stands very much front and center.

Peretti’s Burley Plug Cut: Offering the signature Peretti’s Burley flavor, this dark cube cut smolders beautifully, producing thick clouds of fragrant smoke. Full-bodied, it offers dark and savory flavors of leather, nuts, and earth with a slightly salty finish. I sure wish Ken would have also included a sample of Somerset Slice as well, although if he had it probably would have been long gone by the time the box reached me in any case.

Peter Stokkebye Navy Flake (2006): I have gone back-and-forth with this flake, and in fact it was not all too long ago that I gave up on it and divested my cellar of its few remaining jars. In the spirit of the whole ‘box pass experience', however, I thought I would give it another try. What I found is what I remember: a well constructed and relatively sweet, mild Virginia flake with not all too much Perique which is, all things considered, a bit too thin and vapid for my tastes. I think the jury is still out on this one.
 
I'm gonna piss some people off but I really don't care at this point..

Guys sending out $200-$300 worth of tobacco is not an easy thing to do for me.. That was well over half the tinned tobacco I owned..
Its very disappointing to see premium tobacco just disappear. Sunday night I offered the out that it could have been an accident but no one stepped forward and said "sorry pb, found those tins, my bad" or some such.
Its also very frustrating to see about 1/4 of the tins get opened and become samples.. Some are expected due to continued shipping and the handling involved but this has to be the most of any pass I've ever seen. I can't help but believe they were intentionally opened.
Lastly,and the one that'll piss people off the most, its total bullshit to take a $10 tin and replace it with a $4 pouch/box/tin of tobacco.(Its different if you added those things as extras, I'm not talking to you folks)

This community has been more than generous to me, and I do appreciate it.. Hopefully I've paid that back by operating the Pay It Forward, Secret Santa, and attempting to operate the box pass. But I'm done with it.

Pdiddys the last in line, brother you have it.. You can keep it, toss in the dumpster, give it away, whatever.. I really don't care at this point. To those of you that have played fair, it is appreciated, thank you very much for participating.
 

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