Guess who's the newest Peterson initiate?

[Kyle Weiss]

Well, at 30mm deep, with the draft hole at the top at roughly 25mm above the "well" with the tenon taking up just a bit less than half the area... *shrug* Plenty of space by my reckon so far. Considering this pipe has a slight angle, you wouldn't need a really deep well, as some of the surface area, while shallow, would allow for plenty of "well space." In more heavily-bent, upright-stem pipes, the well would have to be deeper so there was more of a reservoir. This is just my unpedigreed engineering thinking here.

8)

 

[Kyle Weiss]

One hell of a way to break into a Pete. She is gorgeous!!! Congrats Kyle.

Thank ye. So far, I can't keep my hands off it. I really want to let it rest today, but I also want to go hang out with it. :lol:

 

[George Kaplan]

(...that was a particularly irritating shot to take, shadowing, light, focus...)

Before I read that, I was looking at that photo, thinking "Man, that's one helluva shot." Ebay sellers should all study your technique, Kyle. So what is your pipe's true identity? Beats me. I never claimed to be an expert, just a guy with 3 or 4 Petes. I'm satisfied with Yak's answer, since he never publishes any unverified or misleading information.

 

[Rob_In_MO]

I'm satisfied with Yak's answer, since he never publishes any unverified or misleading information.

:lol!:

 

[Mozjo33]

Is it a 9mm? if so and you want the filters let me know. I snagged a St Patrick Day several weeks ago and I can't stand the filter. Even changing it every smoke, it feels like the draw is hampered way too much, but without a filter, I rip through a bowl too fast. I don't know if Peterson makes an adaptor like Savinelli. Any thoughts or suggestions...

 

[Kyle Weiss]

I'm satisfied with Yak's answer, since he never publishes any unverified or misleading information.

:lol!:

Stop it, both of you. :suspect: No rousing rabble.

 

[Anonymous]

THANK YOU for catching that. It's the second time in a week where the memory bank's malfunctioned (1st time calling a Caminetto a Castello).

You don't need a band saw. Cleaning the condensation chamber involves rolling a kleenex up into a little tampon & twisting it in until you reach the bottom. It comes out pretty well soaked with gunk if it's been a couple smokes since the last cleaning.

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[Kyle Weiss]

Mozjo:

The physical on mine:

29.85mm deep mortise chamber from the edge, with a 10.15mm wide mortise -- stem is 11.95mm in length at the tenon, non-filter.

Thanks for the offer, though...I wouldn't have bought it if it was a filter pipe. I don't mind falling in love with a good deal on an estate pipe with a filter and simply not using it, but it's a deal-breaker with a new pipe.

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Cleaning the condensation chamber involves rolling a kleenex up into a little tampon & twisting it in until you reach the bottom. It comes out pretty well soaked with gunk if it's been a couple smokes since the last cleaning.

:face:

Figured that one out on my own, Yak. Made the "tamPetepon" and it worked a treat. Gotta be proud of me.

Although since this pipe is a no-such-thing, I suppose I was just dreaming. Again.

8)

 

[Mozjo33]

Mozjo:

The physical on mine:

29.85mm deep mortise chamber from the edge, with a 10.15mm wide mortise -- stem is 11.95mm in length at the tenon, non-filter.

Thanks for the offer, though...I wouldn't have bought it if it was a filter pipe. I don't mind falling in love with a good deal on an estate pipe with a filter and simply not using it, but it's a deal-breaker with a new pipe.

Ahh...I should open my eyes and read everything more carefully. Enjoy the new Pete!!

 

[Anonymous]

When the wider drilling (to accomodate the tenon) exceeds the length of the tenon itself, you've got a system pipe.

Not that many makers ever were real careful or scrupulous about that anyway, so unintentional approximations of it are possible.

But, on mine at least, it's unmistakable & presumably intentional.

:face:

 

[Harlock999]

Wow.
Systems, p-lips, stained chambers, bleeding finishes, arduously long break in periods, vulcanite...
Is it a Catholic thing? Because you Peterson guys seem to be gluttons for punishment... 8)

 

[Kyle Weiss]

I think that makes sense. Is that a hard-and-fast rule for all System Petes, though?

I think my Pete's tenon is about 2mm narrower than the length. Mutant System Pete? Maybe a slight design alteration to accommodate the pipe's angle and structure?

All I know is, at one point, some fella here said there was no such thing as a "System Bulldog Pete." So naturally, when I found one (at least what I thought was one, which is what I wanted), I couldn't be happier.

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Wow.
Systems, p-lips, stained chambers, bleeding finishes, arduously long break in periods, vulcanite...
Is it a Catholic thing? Because you Peterson guys seem to be gluttons for punishment... 8)

Another belly-laugh wins the day. 8) Damn you, Harlock. :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

I don't have any idea where the "arduously long break-in periods" nonsense came from, unless it was from people smoking the dip-stained ones without soaking the stain out first (a VERY bad idea).

Smoked & loved Petes both new & used (mostly used, by choice) from 1974 on -- too many to remember them all. NEVER had a break-in problem. In fact, the freakish thing about the 80S was that the first smoke in it was one of those epiphanies that people chase. So THIS is what smoking a pipe can be !!!!!!!!

That as opposed to breaking in other new pipes, 1970s-80s. Which could be (understatement) rugged.

:face:

 

[Puff Daddy]

Yep, the most consistent thing about Peterson is the variations found.

Nice one there Kyle! Looking forward to a report.

 

[monbla256]

the 150, 999, 80 or 80s have never been part of the System range.

Objection, Your Honor. I have an 80S Premiere, gotten new in 1975, that is a system pipe. I.e., it has a wide-diameter moisture trap drilled the length of the shank, the same way (at least the older) 31 army mounts do (did ?). The airway drilling into the bowl is at an angle to this.

:face:

I brought this very thing up with the Irishmen over on the IPPC Forum last year as My Rosslare 999 is drilled as Kyle's . So I thought "Oh, it's a System pipe !" and asked about it and was screamed at for sking the question! Seems one of the admins over there had something to do with Peterson and told me that the airhole drilling for the bent Buldogs/Rhodesian style pipes was a two step method which left a larger primary tenon hole with the airway the smaller offset at the angle needed and that they were NOT System pipes! Since I don't work at Peterson I can't say yes/no, I just enjoy mine and smoke 'em! I would say that what the Company says are there System range of pipes might be what it is?

 

[Anonymous]

The psychological warpage imposed by the industrial mentality that (in Robert Crum's immortal phrase) assigned an inordinately high value to "a high standard of standardness" never much affected Ireland (or, for that matter, the Spanish-/Portugese-speaking countries).

It's part of their appeal.

With a Brit pipe, on the other hand (and with the industrially-oriented Italians), it's the extent to which the turned stummel requires NO deviation from the pattern via sanding. I.e., is a pure expression of the patternmaker's ideal form.

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[Anonymous]

one of the admins over there had something to do with Peterson and told me that the airhole drilling for the bent Buldogs/Rhodesian style pipes was a two step method which left a larger primary tenon hole with the airway the smaller offset at the angle needed and that they were NOT System pipes!

ANY old bent bulldog, by any maker (in fact, most pipes, from most -- billiards included) require a two-stage drilling process -- Petes no less or more than others. Which is why the BBDs won't pass a cleaner no matter who made them. But I don't expect you'll find as many Dunhills or Charatans with the mortise drilling carried that far past the end of the tenon seating depth.

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[Kyle Weiss]

Monbla, did you remind them you have been smoking for 400 years?

This is why I was wondering if it's just a labeling/nomenclature thing: from other System Petes I've seen, this includes the somewhat ridiculous design of straight pipes that are considered "System," there's a space chamber drilled strikingly similar in my 80S. So, are all Peterson pipes drilled with some "two step process" making them resemble so closely a System? Or are there also models that have the standard mortise/tenon setup that meets snugly with no gaps?

On another note regarding Yak's 80S epiphany... I'm having some Kendal Plug (a little Irish/Brit conflict going on) in the hotly-debated 80S in question, and all cylinders are firing. This pipe is making m very, very happy. 8) I'm glad I held out for this one.