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Kyle --

Thurston is an 80S, right ?

I had my first pipe epiphany with one. Still have it. And the box &c. it came with, in 1975. Before Melvin threw me out for differing with one of his opinions, I ran into a guy at dot org who had something like 50 of them (80Ss). They were the pipes he liked, and that was that.

Doesn't mean you're "wrong." But it's uncommon to run into negative takes on 80Ss and 999s. Is it just the gurgling at the tenon intake ?

(I've bored people about the Caminetto Pipe from Hell already) (Full disclosure : I've since gotten an even older one and love it).

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Affirmative. Thurston's a rather big 80S.

I guess it's a little hard to describe what I'm experiencing here:

On certain days, for whatever reason, it simply smokes moist. I do not get perceivable excess moisture inside the stem or even gurgle at the tenon, it's as if the chamber is suddenly full of condensate, and when I move around, some of it dumps into the bowl. Whether this is me drooling over a fine bowl of Embarcadero, or there's condensation occurring in the stem and traveling downward, or it's simply happening in the chamber--I can't tell. I just know there's something amiss, and I don't think it's me. I'm starting to lean toward thinking it might be pipe design and possibly weather conditions. I prefer to smoke outside, so that adds some variables at times, too. :|

I just like the look of Caminetto pipes--I haven't paid much mind as to the pros/cons. I'll wait until I get "the bug" and figure that one out. :lol:
 
Kyle Weiss":hwua6wos said:
Affirmative. Thurston's a rather big 80S.

I guess it's a little hard to describe what I'm experiencing here:

On certain days, for whatever reason, it simply smokes moist. I do not get perceivable excess moisture inside the stem or even gurgle at the tenon, it's as if the chamber is suddenly full of condensate, and when I move around, some of it dumps into the bowl. Whether this is me drooling over a fine bowl of Embarcadero, or there's condensation occurring in the stem and traveling downward, or it's simply happening in the chamber--I can't tell. I just know there's something amiss, and I don't think it's me. I'm starting to lean toward thinking it might be pipe design and possibly weather conditions. I prefer to smoke outside, so that adds some variables at times, too. :|

I just like the look of Caminetto pipes--I haven't paid much mind as to the pros/cons. I'll wait until I get "the bug" and figure that one out. :lol:
Kyle,
What you describe is exactly what I refered to as Pete's smoking "wet". Back when I predominatly smoked three blends, MM965, BS759, and RR, I found that different Pete's smoked different ones "dryer" than others so that's waht I would smoke in them. Now though, most all of these pipes smoke my English/Balkan blends about the same regardless. Time works wonder. You've got some wonderfull smoking ahead of you ( in 40 years :twisted: :twisted: )
 
I always got that with it also. I just periodically tilt the stem down & blot up the moisture bead with a kleenex. It's a minor annoyance, but I like the way it tastes.

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Harlock999":h2wrquex said:
... how do these often troublesome pipes manage to engender such fierce loyalty and affection? ...it just seems like a lot of work to get a pipe to perform to one's liking.
A fair observation and question. My first go round with Petersons several years ago led me to that same conclusion, not worth the trouble, better pipes out there. And there are better pipes out there. But, aside from the last few years that Stanwell produced pipes in Denmark which were head and shoulders above the rest, there aren't really better pipes out there in that price range, roughly $70 - $150. Name a brand that competes with them and there will be a line of folks with a list of their quirks and issues. So, Peterson has their quirks and issues too. So why choose them? A neat history, lots of really cool shapes, variations, lines, styles, choices. If you have to tweak something here and there, or maybe trade/sell out a few that weren't up to snuff to end up with what is to you an acceptable collection, that's not really so unusual. That happens with Dunhill and Castello too, though less often. Things that would be wholly unacceptable in a $300 pipe can be liveable with a $75 pipe.
 
I like the looks of the Dracula line coming out soon--Peterson says a 999 will be in the lineup...

...are 999s drilled like my 80S, with the faux-system setup?
 
Kyle Weiss":ohpx700h said:
I like the looks of the Dracula line coming out soon--Peterson says a 999 will be in the lineup...

...are 999s drilled like my 80S, with the faux-system setup?
all of my 999's and 80s's are drilled the same. They are not System pipes. FYI here's what the "System" drilling looks like :

Peterson_Cut_out1.jpg


They are not drilled this way.
 
monbla256":0opg6x4m said:
Kyle Weiss":0opg6x4m said:
I like the looks of the Dracula line coming out soon--Peterson says a 999 will be in the lineup...

...are 999s drilled like my 80S, with the faux-system setup?
all of my 999's and 80s's are drilled the same. They are not System pipes. FYI here's what the "System" drilling looks like :

Peterson_Cut_out1.jpg


They are not drilled this way.

Let's see if I can type this a little clearer--are all of the 999s drilled like my 80S? :lol: (aka, "faux-system," as described previously)...?

I would like to try a Peterson with a traditional mortise/tenon setup, and still have it be a bulldog-like shape.
 
Kyle Weiss":zsftey5v said:
monbla256":zsftey5v said:
Kyle Weiss":zsftey5v said:
I like the looks of the Dracula line coming out soon--Peterson says a 999 will be in the lineup...

...are 999s drilled like my 80S, with the faux-system setup?
all of my 999's and 80s's are drilled the same. They are not System pipes. FYI here's what the "System" drilling looks like :

Peterson_Cut_out1.jpg


They are not drilled this way.

Let's see if I can type this a little clearer--are all of the 999s drilled like my 80S? :lol: (aka, "faux-system," as described previously)...?

I would like to try a Peterson with a traditional mortise/tenon setup, and still have it be a bulldog-like shape.
Only owning 3 999'a and 1 80s I cannot say if ALL Petersons in these styles are drilled in your "faux-system" manner as you call it, you would have to ask Peterson about that or go over to the IPPC Forum as those folks KNOW Petersons. I know they use a two step drilling to make the airway in the stummel which may be what you refer to as the "faux system". You cannot get a cleaner thru either of them without putting a slight kink in the end and fiddling with it in a circular motion as you push it in. It's just the way they are. Imperfect, but then they're from Dublin ya know :p ( as opposed to Belfast :twisted: )
 
So I printed this thread out and took it down to O'Mally's pub to show it to Sean and Liam. Of course, Sean had to read it to Liam, which took a while with Sean's one good eye still mostly swollen shut from his third fight at his daughter's wedding, so I'm posting kinda late. We discussed your predicament and decided to let you in on a little wisdom, Kyle, since you're obviously too thick-skulled to figure it out for yourself. (Liam's words, not mine)
Simply put, you're smoking it all wrong. In order to be a TRUE Pete smoker, you must learn to embrace all the charms you see as "design flaws" and sing the praises of Dublin briar to any lace-curtain ninny who dares to smoke something else. Get it through your head that the allmighty System works exactly as God intended, whether or not your pipe was meant to have it. The varnish on the upper mid-range pipes is the perfect thickness. The carbon treatment in the bowls makes for just the right number of "break-in seasons". And the green stain on the Christmas pipes will come back to it's glory when our Lord returns. Why do you think they're called Christmas pipes, anyway. The ONLY item open for debate is the P-lip. This debate, by the way, is a welcome occasion for a polite fistfight, but only with your father or mother. Lacking these, your priest is an acceptable substitute, or if Protestant, your mailman. (He's probably your father anyway.) This is all covered in greater detail in the Peterson catalog.
So quit your sissy whining, have a pint, and smoke that pipe like one of us...

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I did, just now.

Conclusion: Drunken Irishmen (redundancy) made my pipe, and I know better than to eff with drunken Irishmen. :lol: I shall smoke the pipe only when drinking (i.e., with God, as intended).

Well-played, GK. 8)
 
I've had a great breakthrough with Thurston today, and I wanted to let you all know about it.

It's come to my attention Peterson pipes are different. I then pondered why I was approaching them as I would my other pipes. What's good for one goose isn't necessarily good for the gander, I've discovered. Just because one pipe responds well to a method I might have figured out doesn't mean it stops there:

* I packed looser than I thought I should.

* I tamped even less than I thought necessary (and I'm by no means a neurotic elephant when tamping).

* I dumped out a little ash periodically, which I don't normally do.

* I'm keeping this pipe's contents limited to Embarcadero.

What brought me to this conclusion, besides the advice of my Brothers here (you know who you are), was the fact I get great smokes out of cobs, and the rest of my pipe lineup--spare this one. Obviously it wasn't me, it was the pipe. Or... was it? Oops.

Wait, not "oops." Today I received among the best smokes I've had thanks to this pipe. Apparently I created a "breathing problem," and forcing a pipe to be asthmatic wasn't helping matters. Dry, smooth, effortless and sublime.

To each pipe its own, I should have thought of this before. :scratch: Basics.

:cheers:

Thanks, my Brothers, yet again. The little details matter!

 
Thankfully I only own 2 Peterson pipes, a 150 and 80s, both bought new. Won't buy anymore, took to much trouble to get them ready to smoke, let alone break them in.

I own 6 Savinellis and 4 Stanwells and all of them were ready to smoke when I got them and a pleasure to break in.

Same price range! So why would I spend more money on Petersons when I can buy better pipes at the same price?
 
monbla256":x9sr87wg said:
SpeedyPete":x9sr87wg said:
A Peterson 80s is not a system pipe.
OOOH your'e in trouble now :p Kyle's is :p
A system pipe has got a DEEP well drilled underneath the airway. The 80s has got a airway drilled off-centre.

I've owned several Pete system pipes and I now own a Sav system pipe which is exactly like a Pete's system.

There's one hell of a difference between an 80s and a system pipe's inners!!

An 80s does not qualify as a system pipe and Peterson don't sell them as such.
 

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